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Applauding Dismal Failure

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To those of you that applauded the team off the pitch yesterday, can you please put into words just why you did such a thing?

A gutless and clueless 'performance' like that deserved no praise whatsoever (except of course Rene).
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jonnyfive wrote:To those of you that applauded the team off the pitch yesterday, can you please put into words just why you did such a thing?

A gutless and clueless 'performance' like that deserved no praise whatsoever (except of course Rene).
I wasn't there but it perhaps may be that they are supporters of Torquay United Football Club :keepie:
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Come to think of it, why did I clap them off on Tuesday night after a 4-3 win? I should surely have been barracking them for finding themselves 3-0 down to poor opposition in the first place.

So if we were to win 5-0 next week would you not find applauding your team off a bit hypocritical? Fair-weather applauding? What good is it going to do to fail to acknowledge our players at the end of the match, or in some cases shout abuse at them for 10 minutes instead? Billy Bodin has been off his game recently, let's shout at hm for 90 minutes. Scores a 25 yard cracker in the first 5 minutes next week and he's amazing, it's just plain fickleness.

We lost 2-1 to a team who were up for it and in desperate need of points, scrapping for their lives, hell, they could go on a 8 game winning run now, such is the league. Some would think we're rock bottom of the league, hadn't won all season and getting pasted by 3 or 4 each week. It's not panic stations, only our second loss in 11, maybe if we got behind the team for 90 minutes each game instead of shouting at ballboys, stewards and gyppoes we'd be a lot higher.

I would love for the players to dedicate the next victory to the fans who applauded them off the pitch at Wycombe. See how clever you feel then. Turning on the players ain't going to help us out of the supposed 'mire' I am being told we're in.
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Praise where it's due, Stefano. I would never boo my team (unless they lose 1-8 at home), and yesterday shouted my support for the full 95 minutes, but I refuse to clap such utter cr@p.

Still annoyed - does it show?
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That's fair do's mate, you've paid your money like the rest of us. It's your right to leave without saying a peep, it's my right to clap the team at the end of the match, win, lose or draw, they'll still be the same 14 faces clapping back next time we win.

And btw, take a look in the match day thread, I aint trying to polish a turd here at all, I thought we were truly dreadful yesterday.
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Actually I got some comps from a Wycombe director, but still felt ripped off!

I guess it's just my mild way of showing the players that they have let themselves and we the fans down.

Worst showing I have seen since St Albans away in the Setanta Shield.

As you say though, onwards and upwards.

Get well soon Mr Lathrope.
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bengull wrote:Come to think of it, why did I clap them off on Tuesday night after a 4-3 win? I should surely have been barracking them for finding themselves 3-0 down to poor opposition in the first place.

So if we were to win 5-0 next week would you not find applauding your team off a bit hypocritical? Fair-weather applauding? What good is it going to do to fail to acknowledge our players at the end of the match, or in some cases shout abuse at them for 10 minutes instead? Billy Bodin has been off his game recently, let's shout at hm for 90 minutes. Scores a 25 yard cracker in the first 5 minutes next week and he's amazing, it's just plain fickleness.

We lost 2-1 to a team who were up for it and in desperate need of points, scrapping for their lives, hell, they could go on a 8 game winning run now, such is the league. Some would think we're rock bottom of the league, hadn't won all season and getting pasted by 3 or 4 each week. It's not panic stations, only our second loss in 11, maybe if we got behind the team for 90 minutes each game instead of shouting at ballboys, stewards and gyppoes we'd be a lot higher.

I would love for the players to dedicate the next victory to the fans who applauded them off the pitch at Wycombe. See how clever you feel then. Turning on the players ain't going to help us out of the supposed 'mire' I am being told we're in.
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Post by bengull »

Just think your words 'dismal failure' are a bit excessive. Being bottom of the league, getting dicked 8-1, losing 6 on the trot or having Chris Roberts as your chairman are all dismal failures, yesterday was just an annoying minor setback. A poor performance for sure, but given our league position and recent history, far from a fatal blow. Disapproval should be tolerated by those who want to clap, approval should be tolerated by those who want to leave.
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Fair enough Ben, it's clear that you are a reasonable guy that knows his stuff. I will permit you to applaud whenever you like. ;-)

Wycombe could well have scored 3, 4 or even 5 yesterday, and we wouldn't have had grounds for complaint. Kuffour left his shooting boots at home, and how Mr Drysdale managed to miss Downes' handball, I'll never know.

It was rather galling too to see Nicho getting repeatedly skinned by a 39 year old. Thought he was in the shape of his life?
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Agree on most counts, we weren't at the races yesterday. Wycombe played well but we let them do so which was the annoying thing for me. If Wycombe end up bottom 5 or going down end of the season we might feel aggrieved or embarrassed by his result, i have a funny feeling they won't be though.

Funny game football, the fans shout all week for 4-4-2 because they're convinced we'll reap the rewards, get our wish on the saturday and bemoan the fact we create less chances than ever before. Sometimes we don't know as much as we like to think we know. One game soon it will click-like the home game against Wimbledon last season- and we will start to show our potential. I do believe that, but I agree that match needs to be soon before our situation does get a bit too 'airy' for our likings!
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Post by ferrarilover »

We weren't as bad on Saturday as we were against Rotherham.

We applaud because they're were some applause worthy elements. Rene and Danny, a couple of the very slick one touch passing attacks.

Much as Ben, if we ever get beaten so badly that there is genuinely nothing to applaud, then the ground shall fall silent upon the referee's final whistle. Equally, much as Stef (who has the happy knack of always being right), we are supporters of TUFC and will take any opportunity to support and encourage the team.

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Rotherham are a strong side. Wycombe are managerless, and hadn't won a game in nearly 2 months.

Rene was superb, as I have already mentioned, and I was therefore more than happy to give him the clap. Handily, he ran across to us separately, so I didn't have to give his under-performing team-mates the impression that they had done their job properly.

Danny had a decent 25 minutes, granted.
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jonnyfive wrote:Praise where it's due, Stefano. I would never boo my team (unless they lose 1-8 at home), and yesterday shouted my support for the full 95 minutes, but I refuse to clap such utter cr@p.

Still annoyed - does it show?
Losing 8-1 at home. I raise you Scu.nthorpe, October 1995, Andy MacFarlane. I was at that game, isn't it amazing how you can buy someone who scores 4 goals against you and he turns out to be a complete donkey.

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Rotherham have just 7 points more than Wycombe, the same number as us and 11 fewer than Gillingham, how good can they be? Rotherham were pretty bad also, although we suspect most strongly that they did nothing more than they had to do. That said, at least Wycombe actually worked for their goals, rather than being gifted them by a defensive error. Besides this, it was almost nothing to do with Rotherham that we were so bad, it was all of our own making. My assessment stands, we were better at Wycombe (perhaps less bad is a better phrase) than at Rotherham (which ain't saying much, as I'm sure you'll agree).

I am desperately hoping that the reintroduction of DL will change the dynamic of the team sufficiently that we notice it almost immediately. We've tried some alternative personnel, we've tried an alternative system, I'm hoping that reverting to the style which brought us so much success in recent years is the answer which satisfies the quizmaster.

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..and you said Easton should start ahead of Damon! :P
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