...are in the League Two team of the week. Well done..!!
I always said Danny had class..!!
Well I never actually said it, because our whole squad, the staff, and the club have class. The trouble is, we've been spoilt by not having Premier League or Championship football to watch, so we've come to take things for granted and we don't appreciate what we do have: a great little club, with people and players and supporters who care. And we probably get more out of watching soccer at Plainmoor than we would at most other clubs.
So let's put as much commitment into our supporting as the manager and players put into their own jobs. They deserve nothing less.
Oops... I don't know how this got onto the Banter Board. Not intended. Should have been on All Things Plainmoor..!!
Gullscorer wrote:...are in the League Two team of the week. Well done..!!
I always said Danny had class..!!
Well I never actually said it, because our whole squad, the staff, and the club have class. The trouble is, we've been spoilt by not having Premier League or Championship football to watch, so we've come to take things for granted and we don't appreciate what we do have: a great little club, with people and players and supporters who care. And we probably get more out of watching soccer at Plainmoor than we would at most other clubs.
So let's put as much commitment into our supporting as the manager and players put into their own jobs. They deserve nothing less.
Oops... I don't know how this got onto the Banter Board. Not intended. Should have been on All Things Plainmoor..!!
Good post that Mick and you couldn't have picked two finer examples of players who i thought were absolute sh*te and have proved me wrong and changed my mind about them. Obviously i have watched Danny for a number of years and when i first joined this forum he was my main target for criticism, i gave him no respite and posted some clinically scathing stuff about his blatantly obvious lack of ability. I said that he was an impact player who always did the same thing ie: get the ball and cut inside thus narrowing the play and he was BSP level at best. I'm not going to say he has suddenly become a great player and the one thing i feel i CAN criticise him for even now is just how long it has taken the boy to improve himself. He has had a good five or six years at Torquay now and i feel it is only the last season and a half that i have seen noticable improvement in his awareness, finishing and all round play.
That said though, he has stuck at it and i am proud of him for proving me and his many doubters wrong. He still can be predictable and he still can drift in and out of games as he always has but i feel he offers us a bit more now and he has got more confidence and improved himself. He is now IMO a good solid League 2 player as opposed to a non-league player. So well done Danny boy and i hope you continue to improve and score goals for us.
Joe was like Bambi on ice when i first saw him and he looked so sluggish and ungainly that i dismissed him straight away. As last season wore on i was always surprised how i kept on noticing his workrate and dogged defending ability. He always looked cumbersome but boy could he get about the pitch and get stuck in. I remember our 0-0 draw at Vale Park last season and that was possibly the best i have seen Joe play, he was on something that night and gave their forwards no change whatsoever. Immense. He has also shown great improvement and although he has had a little blip this season which culminated in his red card at Brizzle, it is good to see him come back with greater strength of character and i'm so pleased he managed to get his first ever Torquay goal at York although when i saw someone sliding in i actually thought it was Jarvis that had scored! Sorry Joe! I believe, unlike Danny who won't get any higher than league 2, i believe Joe could eventually go and play at a higher level. I just hope it is with us.
Strangely enough it was Pope Gregory the 9th inviting me for drinks aboard his steam yacht, the saucy sue currently wintering in montego bay with the England cricket team and the Balanese Goddess of plenty.
totally agree with the above post. these two players are imo underrated by many on this forum, particularly joe. there are some who seem to just see his slip ups, mistakes, dodgy passes etc of which, in many games this season, nearly every player on the pitch is gulity but somehow don't get mentioned. i think joe is a very skilful player who is very calm and composed on the ball and has the potential to be a very creative player which would be more useful in midfield. i do think that in the future he may end up as a midfielder somewhere, and i agree, hopefully with us.
Nice post Joe, or is that Joe's mum.. Don't think it is a case that fans in general have been critizing Joe Oastler unfairly, he is a very good young player with bags of potential there is no doubting that. Think most myself included have just been honest.
This season he has made a lot of mistakes that have directly lead to goals against, Danny Leadbitter came in did well gave Joe a break, and hopefully Joe's inclusion into the team of the week is a sign he is about to return to the form he showed last season which can only be good for Joe Oastler the team and the club, a fully fit confident Joe Oastler is what we all want.
Also its not a bad thing for for all concerned to know there is a very able lad lad to come in if Joe is not availble for selection, as for Danny Stevens it doesn't surprise me one bit, when he is confident the little man is capable of causing mayhem in the opposing defence.
soccer
1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang (with jocular formation -er; see -er (3)), from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); cf. rugger, but they hardly could have
taken the first three letters of Assoc.
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mrs leadbitter, (alias forevertufc) i quite agree that your son is an able replacement for joe oastler and i am sure that one day soon he will get another opportunity to show us what he can do. however my post was about joe oastler and danny stevens and whilst i can appreciate that you want to promote him, a chat with martin ling may be more beneficial
soccer
1889, socca, later socker (1891), soccer (1895), originally university slang (with jocular formation -er; see -er (3)), from a shortened form of Assoc., abbreviation of association in Football Association (as opposed to Rugby football); cf. rugger, but they hardly could have
taken the first three letters of Assoc.
Greaaaaaattttt.....
'Football' as a word was around nearly 500 years before and the sport we play was known as football before 'Soccer' ever existed.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove by posting that. I'm well aware that other countries use the term and already knew the history of the word, although not the years. It's general knowledge for the average FOOTBALL fan...
'Football' as a word was around nearly 500 years before and the sport we play was known as football before 'Soccer' ever existed.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to prove by posting that. I'm well aware that other countries use the term and already knew the history of the word, although not the years. It's general knowledge for the average FOOTBALL fan...
If it's general knowledge for the average fan...why do people such as yourself feel a need to criticise it every time it's used? Do you picket Sky Sports every weekend when they broadcast Soccer AM and Soccer Saturday?
What was proved was that the word 'soccer' was invented by the English - and it was also used more commonly than 'football' until some time after WW2. It's really only referred to as football now because it's become the dominant type. Hey, most on this board will know that I'm usually very happy to engage in a bit of pedantry, but this particular thing has no merit.
sidenote - I've noticed that often, people who complain about the word 'soccer' then follow it up with "bloody Americans". (see also 'aluminium/aluminum', which that Yanks actually do have entirely correct) Even though it's also used in this way in Australia, Ireland, and most other english-speaking countries.
happytorq wrote:
If it's general knowledge for the average fan...why do people such as yourself feel a need to criticise it every time it's used? Do you picket Sky Sports every weekend when they broadcast Soccer AM and Soccer Saturday?
What was proved was that the word 'soccer' was invented by the English - and it was also used more commonly than 'football' until some time after WW2. It's really only referred to as football now because it's become the dominant type. Hey, most on this board will know that I'm usually very happy to engage in a bit of pedantry, but this particular thing has no merit.
sidenote - I've noticed that often, people who complain about the word 'soccer' then follow it up with "bloody Americans". (see also 'aluminium/aluminum', which that Yanks actually do have entirely correct) Even though it's also used in this way in Australia, Ireland, and most other english-speaking countries.
happytorq wrote:If it's general knowledge for the average fan...why do people such as yourself feel a need to criticise it every time it's used? Do you picket Sky Sports every weekend when they broadcast Soccer AM and Soccer Saturday?
What was proved was that the word 'soccer' was invented by the English - and it was also used more commonly than 'football' until some time after WW2. It's really only referred to as football because it's become the dominant type. Hey, most on this board will know that I'm usually very happy to engage in a bit of pedantry, but this particular thing has no merit.
sidenote - I've noticed that often, people who complain about the word 'soccer' then follow it up with "bloody Americans". (see also 'aluminium/aluminum', which that Yanks actually do have entirely correct) Even though it's also used in this way in Australia, Ireland, and most other english-speaking countries.
My point is that 'Soccer' is no longer an English word. We may have invented it, but its rarely used by English people talking to other English people about this particular sport. All the countries you mention have their own sports with football in the name which were around before our sport moved over. I'd wager that at least 90% of the top footballing nations in the world call the sport, football or an equivalent in their own language and many that call it Soccer have their own version of football.
The reason I don't like the word Soccer is because we don't play Soccer, we play football. We don't have a team of Soccer players, we have a team of footballers. We don't go down the park to kick a soccer around, we kick a football around. I am proudly British and I refuse to start putting the month first on dates! I fully intend to play my Football match on 1st December 2012, not my soccer game on December 1!
Don't think it is a case that fans in general have been critizing Joe Oastler unfairly, he is a very good young player with bags of potential there is no doubting that. Think most myself included have just been honest.
