New GK coach required!

UnitedinDevon · Post by **UnitedinDevon** » 18 Jul 2021, 21:25

Seems you don't news via DevonLive/Torbay Weekly or the club so you have to look at personal twitter accounts

A loss as its clear PO had a positive impact on our keepers especially Covolan

https://x.com/Gksouthwest/status/1416500224982401028

desperado · Post by **desperado** » 19 Jul 2021, 07:03

Sounds like a job for Jpr
Re Covolan comments he obviously knows better than Gary Johnson and Port Vale.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 19 Jul 2021, 07:41

desperado wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 07:03 Sounds like a job for Jpr
Re Covolan comments he obviously knows better than Gary Johnson and Port Vale.

Yep I will be going for it, as I can bring a whole different approach to goalkeeper training from what is being trained to are youngsters at the moment.

North Curry House · Post by **North Curry House** » 19 Jul 2021, 15:08

Do we really need a goalkeeper coach? When I was involved in football, a gk only had to keep the ball out of his net and marshall the defence by talking to them.
Save a unecessary expense!

MellowYellow · Post by **MellowYellow** » 19 Jul 2021, 16:16

Jpr wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 07:41 Yep I will be going for it, as I can bring a whole different approach to goalkeeper training from what is being trained to are youngsters at the moment.

Thats great to hear - you do know that the ball is no longer made of English Hand Made Stitched Leather With Original Lace and that you no longer blow up the pigs bladder inside the ball.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 20 Jul 2021, 07:42

MellowYellow wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 16:16 Thats great to hear - you do know that the ball is no longer made of English Hand Made Stitched Leather With Original Lace and that you no longer blow up the pigs bladder inside the ball.

Yes I do as I only hung my cloves up a couple of years ago.

CourtierGull · Post by **CourtierGull** » 20 Jul 2021, 07:54

Don’t want to say too much, but as someone who worked very closely to PO for quite a few years, I can safely say that this is nothing to worry about.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 20 Jul 2021, 08:37

Jpr wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 07:41 Yep I will be going for it, as I can bring a whole different approach to goalkeeper training from what is being trained to are youngsters at the moment.

As long as you take the youngsters for English lessons....

As another goalkeeper I disagree with your opinion.

DB57 · Post by **DB57** » 21 Jul 2021, 21:39

Jpr wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 07:41 Yep I will be going for it, as I can bring a whole different approach to goalkeeper training from what is being trained to are youngsters at the moment.

Are youngsters???

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 25 Jul 2021, 16:42

Southampton Gull wrote: 20 Jul 2021, 08:37 As long as you take the youngsters for English lessons....

As another goalkeeper I disagree with your opinion.

Yep that’s ok to have an opinion, but when you look at the standard of goalkeeper training in this country it’s very poor, I have watched professional clubs do goalkeeper training here in the bay, and not one of the coaches had been a goalkeeper. It had all been taught to them at a college and then for them to go out to train it. (one training guide for all) no wonder are national team/premier league has not got world class keepers. And maybe because I never went to college to learn goalkeeping I never really picked up English.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 25 Jul 2021, 17:32

I was coached by John Burridge and Tim Flowers. Keepers know keepers which is why I'm surprised at your rating of Covolan. Obviously the Port Vale management disagree with you as well.

Post by **Dave** » 25 Jul 2021, 17:41

I don't know jpr, but am of the opinion they are talking copiuos amounts of shit. Maybe jpr can come back and tell us who these professional keeper coach's trained in college are, and what clubs they're at.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 28 Jul 2021, 08:15

Southampton Gull wrote: 25 Jul 2021, 17:32 I was coached by John Burridge and Tim Flowers. Keepers know keepers which is why I'm surprised at your rating of Covolan. Obviously the Port Vale management disagree with you as well.

Time will tell.

Jpr · Post by **Jpr** » 28 Jul 2021, 08:24

forevertufc wrote: 25 Jul 2021, 17:41 I don't know jpr, but am of the opinion they are talking copiuos amounts of shit. Maybe jpr can come back and tell us who these professional keeper coach's trained in college are, and what clubs they're at.

If you go along to training grounds where they are training the next generation of keepers It won’t take you long to find out what clubs,
And not just in this area,

Post by **Dave** » 31 Jul 2021, 18:26

If you want to continue to be vague that's fine. From a personal stand point I'm not worried about the background of any football coach, whether a goalkeeper specialist, during my own 10 stint in youth development football went to a number of training grounds, including our own, as well as Exeter's, witnessed academy games at Bristol City , Bournemouth and Plymouth.

The reason why I'm not worried about the background of of football coach's is simple, I've worked along side both Level 1,2 and B licence coach's , some were only ever bang average park footballers, some never played the game didn't stop them from producing a number of lads into professional academies, I also know Phil Osborn personally.

For evidence look at Arsene Wenger never more than an average semi-pro, yet as a manager had a production line of unheard of players that developed into international players, compare him to John Barnes one of the most natural gifted and technical players ever to play the game, some would say way ahead of his time, yet couldn't coach/manage in football to save his life.

That's the thing, to be great coach, you need a good knowledge subject, a ability to demonstrate, and to be a good teacher that's why the greatest players don't always make the best coach's, and best coach's weren't always the best players.

So no you don't need to have been an ex professional keeper to make a good keeper coach. If you look at elite goalkeeping in England right now, it's never been stronger; Pickford, Pope, Henderson, Johnson and Ramsdale and has the England team ever had 5 keepers all capable of taking the number 1 shirt.

They all started their journey with people like me, before being passed on to academies keeper coaching , then onto elite professional keeper coaching with their clubs, I'd say the state of goalkeeper coaching in this country is looking pretty strong right now.

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