Are these latest signings the last roll of the dice for TUFC

notnow · Post by **notnow** » 06 Jan 2018, 14:52

If it states in the deeds that it must only be used for football or sport etc there ain’t much he could do! Other than use it for......football?

notnow · Post by **notnow** » 06 Jan 2018, 14:57

And if he didn’t make improvements then that would be his choice, however, the upkeep would have to be at a minimum standard or the owner would be forced so.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » 06 Jan 2018, 14:59

notnow wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 14:52 If it states in the deeds that it must only be used for football or sport etc there ain’t much he could do! Other than use it for......football?

Isn't there supposed to be covenant on the ground already stating just that? Does anyone seriously think that will stop the bulldozers if there is money to be made?

Anyway the proposed land swap involving the school and the Quinta playing fields conveniently gets around any such obstacle.

Plainmoor78 · Post by **Plainmoor78** » 06 Jan 2018, 18:36

Southampton Gull wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 14:17 Clarke Osborne IS Torquay Utd as things stand. What would he have done if we already owned the land?

Yorkieandy will probably correct me if I'm wrong but York city used to own bootham crescent but in 1999 the board separated the football club from the ground by transferring the real estate into a holding company. Both club and real estate were put up for sale. Since then York city have struggled to find a permanent home with property developers waiting to move in on bootham crescent.
If Osbourne had already owned plainmoor I would have expected him to do the same thing. That is separate club and ground into two separate companies and get rid of the football side of things.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 06 Jan 2018, 19:46

It was a rhetorical question

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 06 Jan 2018, 21:39

frenchgull wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 13:57You could argue that some eighty years ago the board of Torquay United should have been a lot more wise and business like and bought Plainmoor instead of just renting from the council,bit like buying your own house and not throwing dead money away each month, why all the board members from way back never thought of this is bewildering as all were so called business men.Even right up to the Bristows, better to spend their money on buying the ground than just wasting it away

Strewth ~ the naivety in your posting (especially with all the time and effort some people have made to point out the actualite of the situation) beggars belief!

FFS how many more times does it need to be said that 'the club' owning the freehold of the ground would sound it's death knell!

I really am despairing now of even a smidgen of common sense coming out of the collective that is the support base of this club! :slap:

notnow · Post by **notnow** » 06 Jan 2018, 21:56

The devil will be in the detail of the deed so please explain one more time to those of us that are simpletons the pending knell if it were owned?

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 06 Jan 2018, 22:00

notnow wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 21:56The devil will be in the detail of the deed so please explain one more time to those of us that are simpletons the pending knell if it were owned?

Who owns the club?

It really is that simple that even a moron can work out that if the 'club' own the ground then the person who owns the club then owns the ground.........are we not trying to stop Osborne owning the ground?

Jesus wept!!!!

Yorkieandy · Post by **Yorkieandy** » 06 Jan 2018, 22:00

Man that's BOLD!! :S

Yorkieandy · Post by **Yorkieandy** » 06 Jan 2018, 22:02

Merse is right though apart from it's the council that own the freehold is it not? Bent club owners or council? Same thing really so we're up shit creek.

notnow · Post by **notnow** » 06 Jan 2018, 23:33

Merse is not right, he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about!

Yorkieandy · Post by **Yorkieandy** » 06 Jan 2018, 23:43

notnow wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 23:33 Merse is not right, he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about!

Whatever Merse says or does regarding TUFC is irrelevant as the club are going under whether he likes it / accepts it or not. In this instance though he is right. If the freehold to Plainmoor was part of any deal to buy the club then whoever owns the club owns the land. Therefore if GI were said owners with their stinky mitts on the land already then it's easier for them to do what the hell they want.

As it stands the council have the key to the freehold but as councillors cannot be trusted then it's pretty much the same deal.

What the club needs is somebody at the council with decency and integrity and who has the power to keep the freehold from predatory businessmen.

Unfortunately that person doesn't exist.

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 06 Jan 2018, 23:55

notnow wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 23:33Merse is not right, he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about!

Give us your version then.

MellowYellow · Post by **MellowYellow** » 07 Jan 2018, 00:06

notnow wrote: 06 Jan 2018, 23:33 Merse is not right, he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about!

I think you might find he is! Although I am open to your version of why he is not right! Which is?

merse btpir · Post by **merse btpir** » 07 Jan 2018, 08:47

It's too easy for people to post hiding behind a pseudonym criticising and attempting to discredit posts by a person who patently does not hide.

So if notnow would care to identify themselves and then put up an alternative argument, the statement 'Merse is not right, he hasn’t got a clue what he’s on about!' might gain some credence.

Until then, it is just another anonymous personal attack from a coward.

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