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PhilGull · Post by **PhilGull** » 19 Aug 2014, 13:13

Or blind who think they can see taking charge and leading the blind...

SIDGULL · Post by **SIDGULL** » 20 Aug 2014, 18:11

And remember . . . . In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king . . . . .

hector · Post by **hector** » 20 Aug 2014, 18:17

Southampton Gull wrote:Blind leading the blind ..........

Knowledge is power, some seem to think - even those who make things up!

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 20 Aug 2014, 20:23

hector wrote: Knowledge is power, some seem to think - even those who make things up!

Yawn.....

Nothing to do with power of any kind. As I've said previously, if I wasn't an Admin on here I would probably be just as much in the dark as you. Just because I choose to honour a confidence you think I have some personal agenda against a club official, pretty ridiculous assumption on your part really, nothing new there though eh

hector · Post by **hector** » 20 Aug 2014, 23:24

Southampton Gull wrote:
Yawn.....

Nothing to do with power of any kind. As I've said previously, if I wasn't an Admin on here I would probably be just as much in the dark as you. Just because I choose to honour a confidence you think I have some personal agenda against a club official, pretty ridiculous assumption on your part really, nothing new there though eh

But it is your position as 'admin' that appears to suggest that your word should be taken as gospel when there is nothing to back it up. What gravitas does your word carry that means people should believe you? Read another forum and Bill Phillips is not tarred with feathers in the way he is by some on here. Whose word carries more weight? Rather than demean people who do not accept a view that has non-existent evidence, other than a meagre bit of hearsay, back your argument up with some substance if you are going to put it forward.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 21 Aug 2014, 04:51

It might appear to suggest a lot to you but it's no different to others who may or may not know what I've seen, I don't need to do anything just to appease you and your own doubts. I know what I know, if you choose to think everything is just rosy in the garden that's your lookout. You keep mentioning hearsay as if it's a fact because you're not privy to what has been shared with myself and seemingly a few others, that's your problem to deal with, your frustration over it is plainly obvious

Post by **MidDevon** » 21 Aug 2014, 06:53

What appears to becoming more obvious is that there is room for new board members to join. I mean both in a physical sense and clearly also to anyone who is prepared to come in with investment. Those coming in with any significant investment will want their own "top table" prior to committing themselves, otherwise it simply looks like a "hostile takeover".

Recent changes to the board appear to be linked to relatively long running rumours of "talks" being held in the the seedy bars and posh tea shops of Torbay, long prior to these departures.

My feelings are that the club cannot possibly function long term on the current "top table" and faces, some whom you may already "know", will come to light in the next few weeks.

....just my view on things from keeping my ears open and reading posts on here

hector · Post by **hector** » 21 Aug 2014, 09:51

Southampton Gull wrote:It might appear to suggest a lot to you but it's no different to others who may or may not know what I've seen, I don't need to do anything just to appease you and your own doubts. I know what I know, if you choose to think everything is just rosy in the garden that's your lookout. You keep mentioning hearsay as if it's a fact because you're not privy to what has been shared with myself and seemingly a few others, that's your problem to deal with, your frustration over it is plainly obvious

I'm not frustrated at all. I don't particularly care. All I see is a bloke being repeatedly denigrated on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. When the topic comes up, those 'in the know', tend to swoop down, offer a bit of innuendo; suggest it is 'their lookout' if someone challenges your apparent 'inside knowledge'. Don't comment on the topic, and expect not to be challenged, if you are unwilling or unable to offer a single reason as to why everyone should be wary of Bill Phillips.

I am not mentioning hearsay as fact - in fact quite the opposite. Hearsay, is hearsay and that is what you have offered and seemingly based much of your opinion on. It may well be that you are right but if you are I just wonder what is in it for Bill Phillips? What does he get out of working for the football club for free and getting dogs abuse from some for what it is he does?

DTG · Post by **DTG** » 21 Aug 2014, 10:35

Steve, he's not working for free tho is he? Let's look at facts rather than hearsay and innuendo. His decision making and PR gas been poor at best. His control of finances has hamstrung our competitiveness. He has taken the club backwards in terms of Customer Relations Management. He has led the Club back to the Conference. In short Bill Phillips has cost TUFC a fortune in lost revenue and supporters. By any measure that's a fail and deserves to lose his job.

Post by **Dave** » 21 Aug 2014, 10:42

Seven replies on a subject that's not frustrating you, also which you claim not to care about strange but true. Hector your going around in ever decreasing circles on this, Dave SG has said in his role as admin he gets to se and hear things, he has said he's seen evidence W.R.T Bill Phillips, you've just got to ask your self one simple question, do I believe him or not, simples.

PhilGull · Post by **PhilGull** » 21 Aug 2014, 11:05

DTG wrote:Steve, he's not working for free tho is he? Let's look at facts rather than hearsay and innuendo. His decision making and PR gas been poor at best. His control of finances has hamstrung our competitiveness. He has taken the club backwards in terms of Customer Relations Management. He has led the Club back to the Conference. In short Bill Phillips has cost TUFC a fortune in lost revenue and supporters. By any measure that's a fail and deserves to lose his job.

So Bill Phillips is paid a salary to work as Financial Controller and PR Manager?
Without the luxury of any evidence to the contrary I find it hard to believe that Thea and the rest of the board have left the running of the club entirely to Bill Phillips for the last 18 months. Surely you cannot pin the blame for all our woes on just one member of the board?

On a related note do the three departees still own shares in the club? Am interested to know the situation regarding them stepping down from the board while being shareholders...

Post by **Dave** » 21 Aug 2014, 11:10

Phillips has been bringing his management know-how to bear on the infrastructure at United.

Phillips also ticks several football 'boxes'.

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Phi ... z3B1XTEics

Wubble U · Post by **Wubble U** » 21 Aug 2014, 12:24

forevertufc wrote:Phillips has been bringing his management know-how to bear on the infrastructure at United.

Phillips also ticks several football 'boxes'.

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Phi ... z3B1XTEics

I can see why everybody hates him now.....

He used to be a bloody Lino

Edited to fix quote (SG)

taxilady · Post by **taxilady** » 21 Aug 2014, 15:53

if you click on forever's link, there's another interesting story on the right hand column about another eviction...this time, a wedding reception party who got too rowdy ! Fair enough this time, because a bit later on, elsewhere, they were chucking glasses about & had to have the police called ! Now then, are they United fans ?

hector · Post by **hector** » 21 Aug 2014, 20:21

forevertufc wrote:Seven replies on a subject that's not frustrating you, also which you claim not to care about strange but true. Hector your going around in ever decreasing circles on this, Dave SG has said in his role as admin he gets to se and hear things, he has said he's seen evidence W.R.T Bill Phillips, you've just got to ask your self one simple question, do I believe him or not, simples.

Seven replies (how nice of you to take the time to count them) as part of a discussion about someone who has, allegedly, all but destroyed the club. That is how conversations work - you reply to a point that is made. It doesn't mean it's life or death for those involved in a thread!

Is Bill Phillips paid? Is he working for free? Has he put money into the club? Has he not? Is he performing a normally salaried role for free? Is he getting paid handsomely for it? Has he been given a free reign of power by the rest of the board whose investments are at stake and despite wrecking the club, being at fault for it's relegation (according to some) is still being allowed to get on with the job he obviously performs so badly? Really? Do people really believe that?

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