Danny Mills views on Torquay

[monkeyboy]

The Premiership is the most successful league in the world, and having the best players from around the world is a large reason why. It's unlikely to change, so the changes will happen elsewhere, affecting those without the power.

[arcadia]

The Premiership is the most successful league in the world, and having the best players from around the world is a large reason why. It's unlikely to change, so the changes will happen elsewhere, affecting those without the power.

This is why our national pride has gone, the Premiership is only good for those clubs in it and all the other clubs pick up the scraps. I love football both local and t.v. but I find it boring when you know who's going to win after the first twenty minutes but I admit it's good to see a side like the Palace do well against the top sides but there are not enough English players in the league. This is going into the work place as well.

[ferrarilover]

[quote "arcadia"]The best way to improve the English national team is to get out of the European Market and get a limit on the number of foreign players in the Premiership. Greg Dyke is selfish he in charge of product England and he's looking for a way to improve the English game without upsetting the Premiership. I think Nigel Farage should take over his job.

It was good to see Ryan Giggs give a couple of youngsters a game last week but when was the last time we saw that. I think it's time to get back to basics if we invest in youth you have to give it a chance and not bring in the foreign finished product blocking the academies work. Teams like Torquay are giving the Premier sides youth players experience and now clubs will suffer because Greg Dyke has seen it works and thought teams like Torquay will never reach the Premiership, lets put Reserve sides in that position to improve the product for advertizing.
The Premiership needs a clearout lets get back to an English league. By the way Danny WHO![/quote]

Yeah, it's all them faaaaakin foreigners innit, faaaaackin comin' over 'ere, nickin' our faaaaaackin World Cups!

Who remembers, before the Premiership came along, when we used to win the World Cup every four years?

Matt.

[gullintwoplaces]

Yes Matt, but what do you think about Danny (the w@nker) Mills's comments about Hartlepool v Torquay?

[arcadia]

[quote "arcadia"]The best way to improve the English national team is to get out of the European Market and get a limit on the number of foreign players in the Premiership. Greg Dyke is selfish he in charge of product England and he's looking for a way to improve the English game without upsetting the Premiership. I think Nigel Farage should take over his job.

It was good to see Ryan Giggs give a couple of youngsters a game last week but when was the last time we saw that. I think it's time to get back to basics if we invest in youth you have to give it a chance and not bring in the foreign finished product blocking the academies work. Teams like Torquay are giving the Premier sides youth players experience and now clubs will suffer because Greg Dyke has seen it works and thought teams like Torquay will never reach the Premiership, lets put Reserve sides in that position to improve the product for advertizing.
The Premiership needs a clearout lets get back to an English league. By the way Danny WHO!

Yeah, it's all them faaaaakin foreigners innit, faaaaackin comin' over 'ere, nickin' our faaaaaackin World Cups!

Who remembers, before the Premiership came along, when we used to win the World Cup every four years?

Matt.[/quote]
This is not about winning world cups for me it's about having enough good players to field a team to
represent England. Matt it was nice to hear from you but how old are you.

[ferrarilover]

Then you're even stupider than you seem. We'll always be able to "take part". San Marino "take part". If all we want to do is send out a team and hope for the best, then nothing needs to change, because that's exactly what we do at present. The changes being made by the FA are intended to help England achieve success in major tournaments. They're hoping to do that by promoting the success of English players ahead of foreigners, but that's a **** nonsense, because we (almost) never bloody won it even before the foreigners turned up. All this shit about the EU and Nige "I hate foreigners but I married one anyway" Farage means that you've swallowed all the rubbish reasoning peddled by the FA.

League 3 is a way of lining the pockets of the top brass in English football. They're justifying it by saying that it'll help the national team, which it won't. It's not the presence of foreign talent which holds back our national side, it's an absence of English talent in general.

Mills is a clown, knows literally nothing. I wonder if he's a member on here?

Matt.

[arcadia]

Then you're even stupider than you seem. We'll always be able to "take part". San Marino "take part". If all we want to do is send out a team and hope for the best, then nothing needs to change, because that's exactly what we do at present. The changes being made by the FA are intended to help England achieve success in major tournaments. They're hoping to do that by promoting the success of English players ahead of foreigners, but that's a f**king nonsense, because we (almost) never bloody won it even before the foreigners turned up. All this sh*t about the EU and Nige "I hate foreigners but I married one anyway" Farage means that you've swallowed all the rubbish reasoning peddled by the FA.

League 3 is a way of lining the pockets of the top brass in English football. They're justifying it by saying that it'll help the national team, which it won't. It's not the presence of foreign talent which holds back our national side, it's an absence of English talent in general.

Mills is a clown, knows literally nothing. I wonder if he's a member on here?

Matt.

I'm just beginning to see that you know very little, you forget we won the world cup in England and Wales when we had the old 1st Division and I watched it. Can you say that in your life time. It's fact we've got good young players in this country and from 16 to 22 there are few chances in the Premier for them to progress because managers jobs are at stake. This why clubs like Torquay get loan players.
It shows just how out of touch you are because young players give up, as there is no openings for them. It will be interesting if Man United play the youngsters again. The foreign players are taking the spaces that the young players could fill, this did happen years ago look at Beckham and Man.United. I saw Beckhams first game it was a breath of fresh air to see youngsters given the chance, Ferguson lost that game but continued with them. That took guts.
It's a shame you resort to rudeness when you disagree but it is catching as you've seen.

[ferrarilover]

Clubs don't sign foreign stars to spite English talent, they sign foreign talent because it's better than anything England has to offer. Good young English players do make it at the top level, just the same as not-quite-good-enough foreigners fail. You're making a noise, but absolutely no cogent argument is spewing forth. So you watched the '66 final, what exactly does that prove?

The idea that young Englishmen don't make it because it's too much of a risk makes no sense. It presumes that playing English youngsters is somehow more risky than playing foreign youngsters, which simply isn't the case.

The fault is with a lack of English talent, it doesn't matter that Januzai gets a space in the side ahead of Smith (or whatever the English chap is called). If Smith were the better player, he'd get in the side. Since he isn't, he doesn't. Just the same as there's some Italian striker playing in Serie B today because he wasn't quite as good as Wayne Rooney 10 years ago.

The cream rises to the top, regardless of nationality.

There's not a single foreigner in the Afghani Premier Division, if foreigners taking national spaces in the top division causes problems, why aren't they favourites for the WC?

Nothing you're saying makes sense in the face of the endless "foreign muck" argument trotted out by people whose only interest in football is how many more millions of pounds they can screw out of it.

You've said it yourself, when a team of exceptionally talented young Englishmen comes along, it's been proven to work. That Man Utd team won, what, 30 trophies. If clubs thought they could repeat that for free, why would they spend hundreds of millions of pounds importing "inferior" foreign players? Just to teach the English national team some sort of lesson? Perhaps in retaliation for the hooliganism of the 80s?

Matt.

[yellowforever]

Who are the current World Champions? Do they manage to produce good quality players while being part of the EU? What about Germany? Nonsensical reasoning to suggest that that is the reason why we can't produce good players.

[ferrarilover]

Who are the current World Champions? Do they manage to produce good quality players while being part of the EU? What about Germany? Nonsensical reasoning to suggest that that is the reason why we can't produce good players.

[UKIP} Must be the Muslims then, after all, it's foreign muck and Muslims that cause all the world's problems [/UKIP]

Matt.

[arcadia]

Very few 18 year old foreign players get chances in the Premiership it seems they learn their trade in France, Germany or other and get in a Premiership side when they are 22 to 24. The problem is they have been playing in their countries top league the years our English youngsters should have been.
The managers are not allowing tallent to blossom they want the finished article so they ship it in like you said best in the world. When a lower division team decides to give a youngster the top managers get over excited and usually sign them up. END for me

[ferrarilover]

So, we can't send young English players to these 'inferior' leagues because?

Matt.

[arcadia]

So, we can't send young English players to these 'inferior' leagues because?

Matt.

Enjoy your day at school tomorrow and don't forget to clean your teeth before bed.

[ferrarilover]

An excellent argument. My day at school involves an exam and little else, so it'll be shit. My oral hygiene is excellent, but thanks for the reminder.

Matt.

[arcadia]

An excellent argument. My day at school involves an exam and little else, so it'll be sh*t. My oral hygiene is excellent, but thanks for the reminder.

Matt.

nice one. Great news today my grandson only 13 played his first game for Bris. City against W.B.A. No banter please.