Drop Rene

[AustrianAndyGull]

Given the calls for the dropping of Bodin earlier in the season for showing disinterest (albeit be only some people - and this is NOT a dig at anybody either), I think the same should be said about Rene if, and only if, he is showing disinterest.

We need to be scoring goals and if our leading scorer can't be bothered then we are most definitely stuffed....question is, who replaces him?!

I take your point Scott and i feel that Rene has been really poor for a while now. The thing with him is that he had such a great start to the season, he could be afforded a dip in form without criticism whereas IMO Bodin has just been generally poor all the way through give or take the odd game so he didn't have any grace so to speak. But you're right, Rene is shocking at the minute, a fact indicated by his abysmal finish at Rochdale when through one on one with the keeper. He looked lost in all honesty. Like you say, we could drop him but what else do we have to bring in? If he is disinterested and not trying then i'd drop him anyway out of principle regardless and bring in Yeoman or somebody who wants to give us 100%. The thing is we have needed some extra muscle up front for ages and that is the only way we have any chance of getting out of this. Rene or no Rene, they are still needed.

[ROADRUNNER]

the whole bloody team bar a couple of players, i.e. poke , downes, have been poor but im sorry you cannot blame rene because we have been shite, the bloke has battled most of the season on his own, now we are in the mire its all his fault. yeah right!

[Trojan 67]

No need to drop Rene now - Rene has dropped himself and as far as I am led to believe, has effectively ended his Torquay United career.

Thank you Rene for your excellent discipline, well thought out efforts and clinically taken goals.

Goodbye and good luck.

[tktufc91]

Without Rene's early goal form, we would probably have been relegated many weeks ago. His goals are the main reason we are in the position we are in now. I think he's done brilliantly in terms of his discipline and I expected him to have been booked weeks ago. If it was his last time wearing the Gulls shirt, I want to say a huge thank you for your efforts Rene and you have written yourself in TUFC history.

[ferrarilover]

I feel in the the opposed manner from tk. I will remember Rene about as long and as fondly as I remember my last poo. Instantly forgettable, totally bog standard lower league fare. Suffers from thinking he's much better than he is. Has scored about 10 decent goals all season and struts about as if we owe him something.
Thanks and all that, Ren, I'm not ungrateful, but we certainly won't be naming any stands after you.

Look forward to meeting his replacement who, perhaps, will bring decent centre forward play back to Plainmoor for the first time since Tim Sills made his much lamented departure.

Matt.

[coley in stripes]

Well said Matt toally agree, put it well, sensible and straight forward without insulting anyone !!

[tauntongull]

Personally, I won't miss Rene. I think we have a great prospect in Yeoman, a lad I have liked for some time. I agree he thinks he is better than he is. He has had a very poor second half of the season but I think his goal scoring statistics for the first half of the season will attract some naive clubs. His disciplinary record will be the deciding factor for some clubs. Is he worth the gamble? Oh and then there's his reputation that results in him getting booked for the most innocuous of challenges - perhaps he's not quite on his way yet!

[Bitchie Renault]

No surprise that there are some fickle responses from the usual ungrateful ones with regards to Rene, he has not had a good second half to the season for sure (as to whether it bears direct relation but his form seemed to dip around the time of the birth of his first child), but that certainly doesn't tell the whole story.
He was in sensational form earlier in the season, being lauded as the best striker in the league, had definately lost a bit of weight and looked sharper, scoring 10 goals in 12 games at one point and looked unplayable at times, showing a really good touch for such a big bloke, possibly the only weapon missing was he didn't score many with his head. There's no doubt we would've been in deep poop without those goals.
But for some reason that form has mostly deserted him and he's been a shadow of that player in lots of games. (Maybe a bit like Eunan, the thought of a possible move is affecting him to) I'll be saddened if he does go as overall I think he is a well above average league 2 striker who we will struggle to replace and just needs to rediscover his form.
Hope he stays, still think he might, but wish him well if he moves on.

[SuperNickyWroe]

yes his form has dropped off. but if he had not score the goals in the first half of the season then we would have been down already.
I suppose its possible to look at some factors for his drop in form - different formations, becoming a father, frustration - there are a few.
It was a great filck-on for Yeomans goal on saturday though!
Players get frustrated - even the best can go games without scoring ie RVP, rooney @ maunre for example.
Speaking to an ex-prem centre forward he gave me a great insight into the frustrations of either not scoring or not playing up to his own standard. he said that he used to take out on his fellow players, the opposition even his missus! :Oops:
he also said that it also felt worse when the team were doing poorly and he could not seem to do anything about it.

So, I say thanks to Rene and all the best. Because without you we would already have been relegated.

[tauntongull]

No surprise that there are some fickle responses from the usual ungrateful ones with regards to Rene

I don't consider my comments to be fickle and I am certainly not ungrateful for his contribution in the first half of the season and I did previously state his second half of the season was poor with the 'good first touch' being absent for the majority of this time - something he had before

[Scott Brehaut]

Maybe he scores more when under Lings style of play........

[Trojan 67]

Don't say that Scott, it will really grind with some folk who already have razor sharp daggers poised.

[SuperNickyWroe]

Maybe he scores more when under Lings style of play........

lingy was still in charge scotty when his form dropped off.

[ferrarilover]

Sorry Bitchie, don't agree at all. He went through a purple patch of 7 goals in 7 games, impressive no doubt, but that, rather than his recent form, was the exception. I've long been attempting to temper the fervent hyperbole regarding Rene's ability, it seems now that people are seeing Rene for what he's always been, bang average.

As I said before, I'm not ungrateful, but let's not kid ourselves that he's somehow irreplaceable.

Matt.

[jonnyfive]

A description of 'bang average' still puts him as better than the majority of our squad this year, who have been 'p*ss poor.'

On his day, he is undoubtedly one of the better League 2 strikers, in all aspects of his play. Unfortunately his career has been made up of short stays at clubs, which would appear to be caused by a flawed character. Like Zebs.

I would prefer to clear out the pointless squad members like Morris, Easton and Craig, and give Rene the chance to show his best again.