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by **jonnyfive** » 05 Feb 2013, 19:23

Don't worry everyone, because Morris may be back in a month or two. Yes, that slow ineffective player that last year had half of Plainmoor on his back. Now that he has suffered a horrendous injury, is he going to be any better, or even worse?

by **goodluckgull** » 05 Feb 2013, 19:14

I note that Morro wasn't included in the reserve match so I guess he isn't ready for the more physical play yet. Hopefully he will be moving to the next stage soon.

by **stevegull** » 05 Feb 2013, 14:59

Yeoman is a striker. Everyone at the club says what a top finisher he is. He just can't play a lone forward role. For Yeoman to be at his best he'd have to be a striker NEXT to someone like Rene Howe. In order to fit into our system I guess a winger is where he is best suited, but I definitely don't like seeing him play out there. He rarely tries to beat his man and plays the 'safe' option far too much.

When he's up front he'll have a bit more freedom and he'd be given the instruction to simply 'score goals'. I think he's very much a player where you have to simplify his task to get the best out of him. Sadly, you can rarely do that do a winger.

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by **PhilGull** » 05 Feb 2013, 14:39

Richinns wrote:Well I think we all agree (apart from Ling that is!) that craig and morris are neither wide men or wingers and so be treated as central midfield players. To be honest I think we should go back to 4-5-1 and let Craig and Morris fight it out for the Eunan role that we so badly miss this year. Macklin/Bodin/Thompson/Stevens can then battle is out for the wide forward positions with Jarvis and Yeoman on the bench to switch to 4-4-2 if plan A is not working.

That is pretty much how we are playing isn't it? At least on paper I think that is how Ling envisages it. Jarvis is playing the "Eunan role".
But you're right, we should be playing something similar to Chelsea (and no I'm not suggesting our players are anywhere near as good as these three) For Hazard, Mata and Oscar think Bodin, Morris/Craig and Macklin/Stevens.

by **Richinns** » 05 Feb 2013, 13:29

Well I think we all agree (apart from Ling that is!) that craig and morris are neither wide men or wingers and so be treated as central midfield players. To be honest I think we should go back to 4-5-1 and let Craig and Morris fight it out for the Eunan role that we so badly miss this year. Macklin/Bodin/Thompson/Stevens can then battle is out for the wide forward positions with Jarvis and Yeoman on the bench to switch to 4-4-2 if plan A is not working.

by **gullintwoplaces** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:44

Brucie said "wingers" not "wingers/wide men". These are not the same. I agree that we have 8 men who have played wide, but to describe them as "wingers" is a bit daft, but that's Brucie for you.

by **Richinns** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:26

gullintwoplaces wrote:Oh come off it! Yeoman is certainly not a winger. Morris is a midfield player. Craig is a midfielder who is (wrongly in my view) being asked to play wide (wide midfield, not on the wing). Jarvis is not a winger. To describe Bodin and Stevens as wingers is stretching it, although you could argue that Danny is being played as a winger. In my mind we really only have TWO wingers, Macklin and Thompson.

So we are arguing about the term winger/wide man? You can only have 2 regardless and brucie point is we have 7 which have no pace and cannot beat a man. I happen not to agree with him (regards pace and beating a man) but to say we have less than 7 wide men/wingers is incorrect as 8 from the current squad have been played in this position.

by **AustrianAndyGull** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:16

Richinns wrote:I find it strange that everyone is seeing Morris as some mystical answer. Before his injury he had few plaudits yet now he is a saviour! Shows how poorly we have played for the most part this year!

He's not the mystical answer Rich but his experience and return to the side will be a lot better than the options we've got at the minute. It's a bad situation all round i agree but i do like Morris and i'd rather have him in that out of our 'ideal' starting 11 that we can pick from. I also agree that if we are desperate for Morris and Macklin to return AND to get in someone like Richard Logan ( who by all accounts isn't too good and has problems ) then it does show how poor we have been this season and how poor we will probably continue to be. I hope to God i'm wrong and Ling can do the business we need this week to stop this from happening.

by **PhilGull** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:12

Richinns wrote:
Craig
Macklin
Stevens
Bodin
Thompson
Yeoman (has been used in a wide position)
Morris (has been used in a wide position)

I count 7! (you could argue 8 if you include Jarvis who has also been used out wide - albeit not this year)

Just because they've been used out wide doesn't mean they are wingers. Craig and Morris are central attacking midfielders. Macklin and Stevens are the only two traditional 'chalk on the boots' wingers. Bodin is a modern wingery-striker and Thompson and Yeoman are kids who haven't proven themselves in any position yet but are both looking likely to mature in to wingery-strikers like Bodin.

by **gullintwoplaces** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:08

Oh come off it! Yeoman is certainly not a winger. Morris is a midfield player. Craig is a midfielder who is (wrongly in my view) being asked to play wide (wide midfield, not on the wing). Jarvis is not a winger. To describe Bodin and Stevens as wingers is stretching it, although you could argue that Danny is being played as a winger. In my mind we really only have TWO wingers, Macklin and Thompson.

by **Richinns** » 05 Feb 2013, 12:02

gullintwoplaces wrote:
SEVEN wingers? SEVEN? Who might these be then? Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good rant from Mr Rant.

Craig
Macklin
Stevens
Bodin
Thompson
Yeoman (has been used in a wide position)
Morris (has been used in a wide position)

I count 7! (you could argue 8 if you include Jarvis who has also been used out wide - albeit not this year)

by **gullintwoplaces** » 05 Feb 2013, 11:58

brucie wrote:Good another winger who has no pace and can't beat his man (we have got about seven of those already)

SEVEN wingers? SEVEN? Who might these be then? Still, why let the facts get in the way of a good rant from Mr Rant.

by **Richinns** » 05 Feb 2013, 11:58

I find it strange that everyone is seeing Morris as some mystical answer. Before his injury he had few plaudits yet now he is a saviour! Shows how poorly we have played for the most part this year!

by **PhilGull** » 05 Feb 2013, 11:53

Good news (for a change!) I can't wait to see Morris back in the middle and Jarvis back on the bench.

by **lankyben** » 04 Feb 2013, 17:13

sooner he is back the better. he brings alot more to the middle of the park than other midfielders at the club. and the notion that he is a winger is ridiculous. I personally would much prefer morris in centre mid than mansell. he offers all mans does and more

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