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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 22:18

Thanks tomogull. Really appreciate that.

I think under Ling I lost sight of the fact that I enjoy going to watch Torquay so much, his brand of football numbed me but now I've got used to Knill's even worse brand and i'm determined to just enjoy going to the games regardless. Matchdays are a great occasion for me whenever I am fortunate enough to go and the anticipation builds in me for days before. After Bury on Saturday I shall already be planning and looking forward to the next game I can get to (which could be Chesterfield at home with a bit of luck). Whether we win, lose or draw like I said we should change our mindsets to not see attending games as a chore. We may not be able to affect the result on the pitch but we sure as hell can have a bloody good time.

NA Gull and others have a right to their opinion but if their replies were critical but well meaning then I've no problem with it. It's the bad attitude that puts me on the defensive.

Thanks anyway tomo!

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by tomogull » 30 Oct 2013, 21:59

AustrianAndyGull wrote:See I like you tomo. :-D
I may get on your nerves but you can have a laugh and a joke and see in between the lines.

Lloyder5 also doesn't like many of my posts but he can accept a bit of fun and banter in response.

Using this site feels like a battle of wills quite often and it needn't be like that. Just lighten up a bit is what I say. Yeah we're sh*t, some moan and whinge but I know how to enjoy going to watch Torquay and I have a right laugh. Maybe some of you lost that enjoyment of going to Torquay win, lose or draw and are bringing this sterileness to the forum, I don't know to be honest. COYY!! :scarf:
I may not always agree with your posts Andy but you certainly don't get on my nerves. I enjoy your pre-match mad posts and at the very least, you provoke discussions (or even heated arguments !) on the Forum. The thing is - everyone posts on the Forum, or reads the posts, because they are smitten with the Torquay United 'bug'. We all have opinions on how things could be improved or done differently. There is a wide spectrum - from those who think we are as good, or better, than any team we have played (except possibly Fleetwood) to those who think we should run up the White Flag and make preparations to visit Nuneaton, Gateshead and Braintree next season. Somewhere in between the two is reality. We are passionate. To quote the late, great Bill Shankly - 'Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.'

As you say, some on here need to lighten up a bit. They will learn in time that Life was never meant to be taken seriously. Newton Abbot Gull had a bit of a pop at you and to be fair, his post was logical and I agreed with much of it. But it would have held more weight if we weren't one point off the bottom of the league, only won two games so far and only one in seven at home, conceded more goals than anyone else except Cheltenham and only four teams have scored less than us. Someone included a link about Knill's dismissal from Scunthorpe where it said there was a lack of passion or desire in the team. That is virtually what you posted after the Burton match and it is what I've seen from the first match. Portsmouth was better so let's hope that kind of tempo and desire continues at Bury and beyond. Up the Gulls ! :scarf:

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by Scott Brehaut » 30 Oct 2013, 16:46

Southampton Gull wrote:You can bloody walk to my house from there :)
Have you ever seen me walk?!

I'm not built for it.

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by Southampton Gull » 30 Oct 2013, 16:20

You can bloody walk to my house from there :)

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by Scott Brehaut » 30 Oct 2013, 16:03

cheap flights to Southampton from December....£39 each way....looks like I my be spending some of my (hard earned) money coming over to see the mighty Gulls later in the year.

Given the cost involved, as long as whilst watching the game it feels like a win, I'll be happy :)

COYY!!

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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 15:57

See I like you tomo. :-D

I may get on your nerves but you can have a laugh and a joke and see in between the lines.

Lloyder5 also doesn't like many of my posts but he can accept a bit of fun and banter in response.

Using this site feels like a battle of wills quite often and it needn't be like that. Just lighten up a bit is what I say. Yeah we're sh*t, some moan and whinge but I know how to enjoy going to watch Torquay and I have a right laugh. Maybe some of you lost that enjoyment of going to Torquay win, lose or draw and are bringing this sterileness to the forum, I don't know to be honest.

COYY!! :scarf:

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by tomogull » 30 Oct 2013, 15:48

AustrianAndyGull wrote:
Oh? No credit?

I'll just wait then until my next negative post for responses. :na: :-D
Just had a look at your Credit Rating, Andy. Sorry - you're not eligible for credit :B

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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 15:41

AustrianAndyGull wrote:For once Brucie I agree with Knill. It would be wise to have cover just incase Downes has a relapse. Do I get any credit from any of the endless list of people wishing to have a dig at me for this?

Oh? No credit?

I'll just wait then until my next negative post for responses. :na: :-D

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by tomogull » 30 Oct 2013, 15:24

AustrianAndyGull wrote:Chesterfield will be promoted IMO and each club that goes up hits a bad patch at some point. They haven't won in 6 league games but will rectify that with a confidence boosting win at home to scunthorpe on Saturday, the following week they will annihilate Daventry Town in the FA Cup at the Proact and then they face us full of confidence and well back on track. We'll get destroyed by Chesterfield who will arrest a poor run of results at Plainmoor and so I just hope we can give it real go on the day. There will no points for us in that game i'm sad to say.

I'd take 2 away wins and win or draw in the FA Cup as a fair return from our next 5 games.
We've both overlooked the little matter of Plymuff on Nov 25th ...... A win would be good, but as it's a local derby, we'll probably have to settle for a draw. So SIX games in November :-/

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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 12:55

For once Brucie I agree with Knill. It would be wise to have cover just incase Downes has a relapse. Do I get any credit from any of the endless list of people wishing to have a dig at me for this?

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by brucie » 30 Oct 2013, 12:53

Having signed O'Connor for another month and with Downes now apparently fit, the big question is what will Knill do with O'Connor? - he can't have been signed to sit on the bench for another month. Presumably Knill isn't going to drop Tonge so quite interested to see what Knill is going to do.

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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 12:17

Chesterfield will be promoted IMO and each club that goes up hits a bad patch at some point. They haven't won in 6 league games but will rectify that with a confidence boosting win at home to Scunthorpe on Saturday, the following week they will annihilate Daventry Town in the FA Cup at the Proact and then they face us full of confidence and well back on track. We'll get destroyed by Chesterfield who will arrest a poor run of results at Plainmoor and so I just hope we can give it real go on the day. There will no points for us in that game i'm sad to say.

I'd take 2 away wins and win or draw in the FA Cup as a fair return from our next 5 games.

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by tomogull » 30 Oct 2013, 12:07

AustrianAndyGull wrote: The upcoming 4 or 5 fixtures will define where we are heading or even if we can just simply hang on in there. Bury is nearly a must win, a draw would be acceptable given a decent promising performance. Rochdale at home in the cup isn't a must win but to get knocked out of all 3 cup competitions at the first hurdle is not going to further endear Knill to the Gulls fans. Accy away, same sentiments as Bury apply, Chesterfield at home will be a real test and I can take a loss with a competitive performance and we finish with Scunny away, another of Knills ex clubs who were smashed at York last night. We should be looking at winning 2 of those 3 away games. Games which won't come much easier in this division.

I'd say he's got this month to get some grit, passion, energy and structure into the side. Oh and some results too.
Yes - I agree that November could well be the month that defines our season. However, I think the Chesterfield game could prove to be the most likely game we will win because they seem to have hit a bad patch of form so perhaps a good time to play them. Bury and Accy will be difficult/scrappy games in my opinion and Scunthorpe seem to be blowing hot and cold - thrashed by York last night and by Exeter a couple of weeks ago. Then there's Rochdale - a Cup first round defeat would be a further setback for the club financially so it is almost a 'must win' game. Let's hope that by November 30th we will be more comfortably placed in the league. :-/

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by SuperNickyWroe » 30 Oct 2013, 11:52

Gullscorer wrote:In addition to ensuring that players have athleticism and physical fitness (stamina, energy), footballing skills, and ability to work as a team, clubs should also be testing them for such things as spacial awareness, quick-wittedness and intelligence. Unfortunately, that would probably limit clubs to playing five-a-side..
if we were lucky. :-/

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by AustrianAndyGull » 30 Oct 2013, 11:45

forevertufc wrote:Love how some through this thread have totally over complicated this, cut to the chase 'wing backs' Trouble is, we all know AK is a 4-4-2/4-2-4 man he has built a squad to play that way, so I can't see who could do the wing back job.

Still think we should stick with the plan, when we have every one fully fit, things should improve, of they don't that's the time to reconsider what is or is not working right.
To be fair Dave, we had everyone fully fit for the first 8 or 9 games and we were going backwards. It is also fair to say that all Knills loan signings have failed when you consider the number of points gained whilst they have been filling in.

I think this is just one of those situations where everyone has a different opinion on the best way forward but nobody is actually confident their opinion will have the desired effect. The upcoming 4 or 5 fixtures will define where we are heading or even if we can just simply hang on in there. Bury is nearly a must win, a draw would be acceptable given a decent promising performance. Rochdale at home in the cup isn't a must win but to get knocked out of all 3 cup competitions at the first hurdle is not going to further endear Knill to the Gulls fans. Accy away, same sentiments as Bury apply, Chesterfield at home will be a real test and I can take a loss with a competitive performance and we finish with Scunny away, another of Knills ex clubs who were smashed at York last night. We should be looking at winning 2 of those 3 away games. Games which won't come much easier in this division.

I'd say he's got this month to get some grit, passion, energy and structure into the side. Oh and some results too.

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