Scott Brehaut wrote: 29 May 2017, 23:25
My point is, Dave, that you get idiots in any religion - it doesn't mean that everybody else is equally as crazy. The Manchester bomber may have believed that he was a Muslim, but he followed different ideals to that of many Muslims that live and work alongside us, and that just want to get on with worshipping their god, in the same way that any other person of any other religion has the right to do.
He was no more a Muslim than I am, which is the point Andy Burnham was making and was the point I was agreeing with.
Just because those that preach hatred and violence are claiming to be Muslims and followers of Islam, doesn't make them either of those, in the same way that me claiming to be a dog and running around on all fours whilst burying a bone doesn't make me a dog.
I'll leave you with that picture
I do agree with your sentiment and get where your coming from, yes, there is an overwhelming majority of Muslims who are peaceful and law abiding, but Plainmoor 78 is spot on, all this, well he committed an act of evil so he just can't be a Muslim is, utter, nuclear grade nonsense, we must stop the BS, and tell the truth. He was a Muslim, he did do what he did.
One of the biggest problems in our country is people just can't say what they want to say. will post and link and copy some of what a British Muslims woman said on question time, had May, Corbyn or even more so Farage said what she had the guts to say, there would have uproar, amongst the left wing liberal media, who are not part of the solution, they're part of the problem.
http://vidmax.com/video/157675-British- ... ter-Attack
“I myself am a Muslim,” the unidentified woman began speaking, with her head uncovered, after offering her prayers and support for the victims’ families. “I am a British Muslim and I am very proud of my heritage but I am also a realist and there is an elephant in the room here and, unfortunately — it is very unfortunate — there is an issue in regards to radicalization and extremism that does exist within our community,” she admitted.
“That is something that we have to accept and we have to deal with,” she urged before explaining that “children are being taught the Wahhabi interpretation of the Quran,” and “Saudi-trained clerics”
are indoctrinating young children in the UK with the most radical form of Islam.
“We do have an issue within our mosques, within our religious institutions,” she stated. “We have children Saudi-trained clerics coming in and speaking to children as young as seven. And you know, that have these books, you know, children are taught…we have to do something about it.”
“I would say, for now, for now temporarily close down all Saudi-financed mosques,” she proposed. And I myself as a Muslim — I am a Muslim…” she said before being interrupted by applause from the audience.
To be even more politically incorrect, the bold young woman then took a shot at the liberal British immigration policies.
“Terrorism is also being imported right under our noses,” she declared.
The truth.
