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He might even have the benefit of a partner at some stage.

At some point Bucks will realise playing one up front doesn't help a goalscorer be as effective as he might be.

Fonda wrote:He might even have the benefit of a partner at some stage.

At some point Bucks will realise playing one up front doesn't help a goalscorer be as effective as he might be.

Then again it might turn out that Robinson converts more of the chances that Benyon couldn't when we were playing our best football with that formation against Carlisle and Crewe? I certainly saw on saturday the Eunan isn't a central midfielder, so maybe with a more skillful player in Robinson ahead of him, we can get the best out of him and Eunan, I think that's what Buckle is hoping for anyway.

Not sure why you're going out of your way to try and be critical of Benyon, Dave. It's a bit ungrateful if anything. He worked hard, and scored goals - as good a finisher as i've seen at the club. He didn't miss a large percentage of the chances created for him, so it's a shame to suggest otherwise.

Lets hope Robinson proves to be of the same ilk.

Fonda wrote:Not sure why you're going out of your way to try and be critical of Benyon, Dave. It's a bit ungrateful if anything. He worked hard, and scored goals - as good a finisher as i've seen at the club. He didn't miss a large percentage of the chances created for him, so it's a shame to suggest otherwise.

Lets hope Robinson proves to be of the same ilk.

Shane, I'm not being critical, you're just seeing what you want to see, read my post properly.

The implication was that he missed several chances against Carlisle and Crewe? I don't recall that being the case - and even if it was, he scored more than he missed during his time with us so it seems a bit unjustified to highlight specific games. Everyone is entitled to an off-day, and what Benyon offered (that many others don't) is work-rate, even on a bad day.

Er, we played 4-4-2 against both Carlisle and Crewe, and did, as you and buckle said, produced the best football for years.

I agree that o'kane isn't a central midfielder, but I also don't think he plays well further forward either. It's telling that his biggest contribution (in terms of assists, goals and general effct on the game) comes when his nominal starting position is right midfield. He has less defensive duties, and (crucially) is afforded much more space by the opposition out wide, which is when he can use his attributes. Also, try and think of when he does something you applaud; quite often this is a through ball or after he's just dribbled past two players to set up an attack. These are things that happen more often from deeper positions, rather than when he's received the ball with his back to goal in the 'hole'.

Saturday was a prime example. O'kane hardly touched the ball. Why? Because after ten minutes buckle put him into the middle of the pitch. With both teams now playing five across the middle, he just didn't have enough space to play the ball.

Benyon struggled with one up front because after he had run fifty yards a d nicked the ball from the defender, he had literally no-one to pass to within those very fifty yards he just covered. At least when Zebs plays up top with him their hold up play actually has a chance of retaining possession. Also it allows the opposition defence far too easy a time. Reference Saturday; how many times did you see mills thirty yards in our half?

I don't necessarily dislike 4-5-1 as a formation, but you have to gave the players to play it, and those players have to know their jobs well. At the moment neither of these things are true.

Fonda wrote:The implication was that he missed several chances against Carlisle and Crewe? I don't recall that being the case - and even if it was, he scored more than he missed during his time with us so it seems a bit unjustified to highlight specific games. Everyone is entitled to an off-day, and what Benyon offered (that many others don't) is work-rate, even on a bad day.

No striker ever scores more than he misses.

Unless he's Roy Race.

one of our problems at times this season has been not killing games off when we're on top. Not to take diminish the impact of the goals he has scored, but Benyon is as culpable as anybody else in the team in this.

I'll say no more on the subject. My intention was not to defend him so vociferously that it inspired others into criticism.

Thanks for your efforts Benners and good luck for the future. We were lucky to have you and Swindon have done some excellent business.

Would like to welcome both these players to our club,cant say i know a great deal about them,i am looking forward to seeing them action tonight hopefully.

Would it be safe to suggest these are onloan with a view to a permanant transfer in the summer if all works out both ways,that is normaly the case when taking a player on loan from the same division,rather than a young player from a higher league.

If so i cant see there being a problem with these giving there all,after all players at this level its all about earning contracts as they do nto get paid that much.

I think I read both are free agents in the summer so yes, they should be giving it their all to look for the security of a new contract. If they dont, they will soon be out cos Bucks wont wear it....

A Shrewsbury fan on another forum seems to think he wasnt allowed to play tonight as apparently Wroe couldnt play for them as he was ineligble? Something to do with the times they were signed at. I dont think theres anything in it but he seems convinced he wasnt allowed to play tonight?

Wroe is a permanent signing which takes longer to process at the FA than a loan signing does. Hence neither Wroe or Benners could play but Stanley and Robinson could. (or so im told)

Wait for a statement from the Club Sec, think he might have egg on his face.

Southampton Gull wrote:Wait for a statement from the Club Sec, think he might have egg on his face.

Some truth in it then Dave?

Lots I would guess mate.