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First of all we don't yet know if he is a poor manager. At this moment in time it looks like he is heading that way but there are mitigating circumstances and he must be given time and a chance to turn things around. If he doesn't we go down or as near as damn it and then yes, he becomes a poor manager. We've only played 10 games.

He isn't a clown, i call people this when i have really been p*ssed off like spending a sh*tload of cash on an away trip and going through hoops to get childcare only for us to capitulate on the pitch. I usually apologize afterwards if I've been harsh.

The team he has assembled is more than good enough once all fit, playing the right players in the right positions and hitting some sort of form. No worries there. Whether Knill is the man to ensure all this criteria is met is another story altogether.

If we drop into the conference then i'll still be looking forward to matchday.
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AustrianAndyGull wrote:First of all we don't yet know if he is a poor manager. At this moment in time it looks like he is heading that way but there are mitigating circumstances and he must be given time and a chance to turn things around. If he doesn't we go down or as near as damn it and then yes, he becomes a poor manager. We've only played 10 games.

He isn't a clown, i call people this when i have really been p*ssed off like spending a sh*tload of cash on an away trip and going through hoops to get childcare only for us to capitulate on the pitch. I usually apologize afterwards if I've been harsh.

The team he has assembled is more than good enough once all fit, playing the right players in the right positions and hitting some sort of form. No worries there. Whether Knill is the man to ensure all this criteria is met is another story altogether.

If we drop into the conference then i'll still be looking forward to matchday.
Good! some more opinions... excellent!

It would be nice to read some opinions from the "Knill is our Massiah" guys on why the think Knill is such a wonderful manager.
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Yeah, you're right "Wodger", I think he's the Messiah. (Actually, I think he's a very naughty boy)

I don't think that at all, neither do I think him a clown. I just don't think he has convinced me that he is a good manager.

I'm allowed to think your comment was crass and insensitive in the same way that you are allowed to disagree.
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wodger of awabia wrote:
Good! some more opinions... excellent!

It would be nice to read some opinions from the "Knill is our Massiah" guys on why the think Knill is such a wonderful manager.
Maybe you could tell us who those people are, because I haven't seen anybody on here mention that.
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Is there something wrong with you "Wodger"? Stupid question, as there clearly is.

Nobody, but nobody, has called Knill a "Messiah" (except you). He us OUR manager, and true supporters get behind their team and current manager. Moaning windbags like you just whinge. Are you twelve? Or just a just a windup Exeter fan?
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Scott Brehaut wrote: Maybe you could tell us who those people are, because I haven't seen anybody on here mention that.
Perhaps they have all gone away disgruntled with Knills performance!
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gullintwoplaces wrote:Is there something wrong with you "Wodger"? Stupid question, as there clearly is.

Nobody, but nobody, has called Knill a "Messiah" (except you). He us OUR manager, and true supporters get behind their team and current manager. Moaning windbags like you just whinge. Are you twelve? Or just a just a windup Exeter fan?
Why are you so obsessed with Exeter City?
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wodger of awabia wrote: Why are you so obsessed with Exeter City?
Why are you so obsessed with casting doom and gloom? As you ALWAYS do. I am not obsessed with Exeter, I just can't abide them or their fans when they come onto this forum. You're a troll mate, just give it a break will you? Go back to Exeweb.?
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Without wanting to be negative, I can't help but get that feeling more and more as the weeks go by.

I thought Knill did a good job when he came in last season under the circumstances, and was very positive after his summer transfers. On paper they looked like improvement on what we had let go, with the exception of possibly the loss of Howe. But on the whole it all looked good.

However as the season has gone on, there have been many niggles with the way Knill has operated
- Despite having an attack heavy squad, the football has been almost as dire this year as it was last season under Ling.
- Having no defensive cover despite the fact one of our two senior centre halves is known to have a history of injuries.
- The unwillingness to make any changes (personnel or system) despite the fact something didn't seem to be working.
- The decision to give certain players contracts (Yeoman and Benyon) but then not play them and choose to loan in players instead - an unnecessary waste of our playing budget.
- His substitutions. A couple of times now he has brought off one of better players, and he persists in making like for like substitutions that have no impact. However he did make a good decision against AFC Wimbledon in brining on Thompson at right back - I remember thinking what a change it made to have a manager willing to make a risky change to try and impact on the game, but since then he's played it too safe.
- The unwillingness to use our squad and youth players - just highlighted by today's transfer. Lathrope or Craig should have been given at least one game to make an impact and see what they're about. I thought Ball went back because we needed the budget for O'Connor, yet we've now signed McCourt. Sullivan had a very good pre-season but has barely had a look in during competitive matches, and why has Knill not put Hutchings on the bench recently? Our most defensive player on the bench at Newport was Nathan Craig. He may be young and inexperienced, but we should have at least one defensive option available.

Having said that, I'm still confident Knill can turn things around. I think we have a comparatively better first team than last season, but that we aren't playing anywhere near as well as we can or being set up in the right way to play. I'm not going to jump on the 'Knill out' bandwagon, but if the next ten games are anything like the first ten then I'll certainly be starting to worry.

On another note, I want to wish the new lad well and hope he has a storming game tomorrow. Knill's loan signings to date for us (with the possibly exception of Ball) have all been excellent additions, so here's hoping he's added another little gem.
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Just about sums up all i feel lee my good man, spot on and well done :goodpost: . The worrying thing is that Knill has caused all this carnage in the space of just 10 games!
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AustrianAndyGull wrote:Just about sums up all i feel lee my good man, spot on and well done :goodpost: . The worrying thing is that Knill has caused all this carnage in the space of just 10 games!
Completely agree. This was a rational and balanced criticism of Knill's approach this season. Some really good points and coherent, unlike the ill thought out gibberish from "Wodger" and his mates.
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gullintwoplaces wrote: Completely agree. This was a rational and balanced criticism of Knill's approach this season. Some really good points and coherent, unlike the ill thought out gibberish from "Wodger" and his mates.
Thanks. Just trying to post it as I have seen it so far this season.

It is still too early to properly judge how things are going to go. There are always teams who start slowly and pick up, and teams who start quickly and fall down the league.

However, the points I raise above are starting to make me worried, and I'm hoping they aren't fatal flaws of Knill's.
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gullintwoplaces wrote: Completely agree. This was a rational and balanced criticism of Knill's approach this season. Some really good points and coherent, unlike the ill thought out gibberish from "Wodger" and his mates.
You are obviously a big Knill fan, so why don't write something positive on this forum about why you consider him to be a good manager, instead of running down other peoples opinions, & calling fellow forum members Exeter City fans.
Where do you think the team will be at Xmas? Where do you think the team will be at the end of the season?, Do you think that Knills team will start to improve & play entertaining football? Will Knill be able to get the team into the play offs next season. It would be nice to hear what you thinK.
Come to think of it, it would be nice to hear from other forum members who think that Knill is doing a good job.

By the way I think your positive post would be better on "The positive Thread" I shall look forward to reading in & all of the other posts that extol the managerial qualities of Knill
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