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It all went wrong on the 29th January 2011. Putting Elliot Benyon up front on his own against four 6ft plus defenders in the 4th Round FA Cup tie against Crawley. We were never going to win. How much money did we lose as a result of not playing Manchester United? At least a million? Sickening.

Sorry, we lost against Crawley because Elliott Benyon was up-front on his own? That was probably one of many, many reasons. Benners has had a lot of criticism in recent times (some of it justified). But let's not blame him for losing us '£3m' (no idea where that figure has come come), and the current plight of the club.

Fonda wrote:Sorry, we lost against Crawley because Elliott Benyon was up-front on his own? That was probably one of many, many reasons. Benners has had a lot of criticism in recent times (some of it justified). But let's not blame him for losing us '£3m' (no idea where that figure has come come), and the current plight of the club.

I agree, we can't blame one game for our decline. Besides, there were many reasons why we lost that game. Our own team's cowardice in the face of a very hostile Crawley side, one cheating fat bastard who we all know and despise and a referee not fit to sweep the terraces.

For me, if there is any one event that comes to mind that it was Martin King's illness. Appallingly managed by the Board and the precursor to many other bad decisions. I won't say that Lingy's illness caused our fall, but the way it was managed was symptomatic of crass, piss poor management at Board level.

No, wasn't blaming Elliot, he tried his hardest, it was the tactics. Agree with the comments about Crawley and their manager and I am not knocking the players who tried.

samuel wrote:It all went wrong on the 29th January 2011. Putting Elliot Benyon up front on his own against four 6ft plus defenders in the 4th Round FA Cup tie against Crawley. We were never going to win. How much money did we lose as a result of not playing Manchester United? At least a million? Sickening.

If we had beaten Crawley we would never have been drawn against Man Utd. Those things never happen to Torquay.

samuel wrote:No, wasn't blaming Elliot, he tried his hardest, it was the tactics. Agree with the comments about Crawley and their manager and I am not knocking the players who tried.

Fair enough mate.

If i remember correctly Benyon had suffered a broken nose and was touch and go for that game. He played and was targeted within the first few minutes which was no surprise. You cannot blame Benyon, i dont think he should have started due to his injury but Buckle made the call and it didnt pay off

SBP wrote:If i remember correctly Benyon had suffered a broken nose and was touch and go for that game. He played and was targeted within the first few minutes which was no surprise. You cannot blame Benyon, i dont think he should have started due to his injury but Buckle made the call and it didnt pay off

I don 't think Samuel was blaming Benyon. He was blaming the decision to play one of the smallest guys we had up front on his own in a game that had we been more positive and gone for a win could have seen us in a much better financial position in the months/years following...