Nicholson

[Dave]

The reason I posted on this was because I think that it has been the right decision drop nico as he has past his best and was becoming a passenger in a under-achieving side which we can not afford at the best of times let alone now so he should be professional enough to take that and deal with it seeing as he is a senior pro and understands the long term needs of the club.

Totally agree, I've nothing against the guy, wish him well, heard a few rumours of late that Nicho hasn't been professional enough to deal with it hence why he has been banished, and if KWN'S post is a genuine one, from a genuine source, then sadly for me, the rumours are proven true, if KWN'S post is bull then who knows.

[AustrianAndyGull]

As far as not being backed by his teammates on this issue, well I am afraid human nature comes into the equasion.
No one wants to risk there own position.

That's why the country is f*cked sadly.

It's easy to blame human nature but I call it having no moral fibre, integrity, honour or common decency.

That's why whistleblowers get such a hard time, once they 'come out' they are either labelled a 'disgruntled ex employee with an axe to grind' or a 'troublemaker'. God forbid they be standing up for what is right and wrong.

[Southampton Gull]

Three thoughts on the KWN800 posting. If it is Nico, which I would doubt very much, it is poor. Second, If it is how Nico recalls matters, he should not be disclosing that sort of thing to someone who might post it publicly. Third, KWN800 has totally made it up/cobbled together some rumour. Which one is it KWN?

I hope Nico manages to get himself set up come January or if not via a transfer, whenever the loan window is open. All very sad, what has happened. Very sad indeed.

It definitely isn't Nico unless he's moved to the East Midlands

As for disclosing it, I don't think we can blame him for it, he has the right to tell family and friends why he isn't playing, if it then ends up being discussed in public it's not his fault, more the people defending him going a little too far.

[Dave]

That's interesting Dave, so we know it's not Nicho or his immediate family, but Nicho of course is from the East Midlands, I Believe from in Derby, his wider family/friends jumping to his defence? We know fact Nico hasn't been in the match day for while now, but then KWN says Nico's been training with the youth team/on his own, goodluckgull tells he was training with the first team on Dec9th which I have reason to diss believe.

So has Nico be banished from the first team squad or not , who's telling the truth about what?

[Southampton Gull]

Personally I don't blame anyone close to him for standing by Nico, there's been some poor things written about him.

[Dave]

That's why I ask who telling the truth about what, because there seems to be different people peddling different stories, and each side no doubt have their own agenda's , those close to Nico, pro-Knill, anti-knill I suppose are going tell you/us what they want you to hear.

[Scott Brehaut]

The only people that really know what happened are those that were there....anything else is hearsay.

[Rjc70]

The only people that really know what happened are those that were there....anything else is hearsay.

Very true.

I take the point also about the person disclosing all this going off on a frolic of his/her own and I would also not blame Nico for confiding in friends and family on this issue as these must be difficult and uncertain times for him and his family.

What is loud and clear from those who have said they know Nico or that he has done nothing wrong, is that they all share a very low opinion of the Manager. Has hector moved to East Midlands or are we talking Chesterfield?

Shame things have come to this and that he hasn't secured the move away he requested. Good luck, Nico.

[doogull]

Yes good luck to nico in whetever he does in the future but player power does work at all levels of football and this just shows that IF nico is justified in his battle with Knill then he would be supported by his team mates and captain but alas it seems not.

so........

[PhilGull]

Regarding the backing from his team-mates, who's to say he doesn't have it? None of this is in the public domain, all we have here is rumour and speculation. If and it remains 'if' any of this is true then who's to say that every day the entire squad aren't lining up outside the manager's office asking for Nicho to be brought back in to the first team fold.
I don't know about any of you but I don't think I would ever dream of publicly saying anything negative about my boss or work colleagues, at least not in a way where the comments could be traced back to me!

[SuperNickyWroe]

Regarding the backing from his team-mates, who's to say he doesn't have it? None of this is in the public domain, all we have here is rumour and speculation. If and it remains 'if' any of this is true then who's to say that every day the entire squad aren't lining up outside the manager's office asking for Nicho to be brought back in to the first team fold.
I don't know about any of you but I don't think I would ever dream of publicly saying anything negative about my boss or work colleagues, at least not in a way where the comments could be traced back to me!

but then again Phil, whose to say are.......????

[PhilGull]

but then again Phil, whose to say are.......????

Precisely, we don't know. We read between the lines, listen to what people who say they are close to the situation have to say on the matter but we don't actually know anything. In this thread we have someone saying he has been completely frozen out of the first team and someone else saying they have seen him training with the first team.

[goodluckgull]

I noted that "forever" commented that he disbelieved that I saw Nicho training with the first team on the Monday 9th of December. I have no reason to lie about what I saw. I haven't been able to watch any training since then, so cannot confirm if anything has changed.

[limbsofsimb]

A sad situation, really wish it could be resolved. At minimum Nicho is fit for the bench and you need experienced heads on the pitch and around the training ground when you're in these relegation dog fights (we all know that TUFC have been in enough). I don't see a huge benefit of playing Cruise over Nicho. Granted his attacking mindset and probably pace, but positioning and general defensive know how is a no brainer its Nicho all day long. If we were up the top playing like newcastle of old scoring more than we concede then you can get away with defensively frail fullbacks. But not at the moment.... Alan let bygones be bygones and get it sorted!

[bengull]

Lets face it, no-one is in the possession of the full facts here, all this speculation isn't doing anyone any good. Many people wanted Nicholson omitted from the first team and that has happened, its a shame that that isn't enough for some people and they insist on some sort of character assassination. Clearly something has happened to warrant Nicholson's exclusion altogether from the match-day squad and if in your opinion that doesn't reflect kindly on Nicho then so be it, but don't try and attribute behaviour to him that you don't know has happened. It is a sad situation. The guy played over 100 league games in a row for Torquay and has now been axed, with a young family to support, and keen not to uproot, I am sure its just as troubling time for him as it is for us. All this talk of him trying to destabilise us is nonsense and offensive to someone who has been nothing short of professional in his 7 years here. Its clearly a disagreement with the manager and we should just leave it at that until if and when it is resolved.

For what it is worth I would like to see him return (although I have accepted the unlikeliness of this) Tom has had a prolonged number of matches now and hasn't made a discernible difference like everyone thought he would. Knill had a straight choice between Cruise and Nicho for the run in last season and went with Nicho's experience, which just about got us over the line, his know how I still think is vital, our defensive line is catastrophic at present. At least with Nicho you know he will be positioned where he should be, we also miss his set pieces too. Cruise is carrying some sort of injury at present, and reshuffling the pack, or carrying on with a handicapped Cruise at the expense of bringing Nicho back in, if only on a one game basis, is cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Above all though I just hope that this disagreement can be resolved, Nicho is far too useful a squad member and old hand to have sitting in the stand. And all this continual sniping at a good servant is in my opinion a very poor way for a good player to leave the club and/or being remembered.