Paul McCallum

[Gullscorer]

[supergulls]

A little rude about our manager that and I am sure it is not true. I thought he just looked on this forum a couple of hours before kick off to see what team Supergulls has picked! (as indeed I expect our opponents of the day do as well!)

I know the team for tomorrow as you will know but I never put it up here until after 1.30 which is the time the opposition get the team sheets but early enough before it's put out anywhere else.

[AustrianAndyGull]

We do aspire, of course we aspire, but we're limited by much more than a lack of aspiration. We're in a division of teams, teams like Burton Albion who can stretch to paying more than we can. We're in a division of players who are "forced" to sign for the highest bidder because they only earn normal money. The difference between £150,000/week and £200,000/week is, essentially, nothing. The difference between £1200/week and £1500/week is massive.
We can't compete with 90% of clubs in L2 in terms of money. Despite you and I knowing differently, we are, in the eyes of the young, mainly pretty stupid, mainly fairly simple men that we're trying to attract, geographically disadvantaged. We are historically challenged, we're not a fashionable club, we have no history, players, agents, friend and family probably think the same as the vast majority of the population, "Torquay United, aren't they a non-league side?"

We have f**k all to offer down here. As a young, black man interested in money, easy birds and nightclubbing, do you move to Bristol Rovers on two grand a week, or Torquay United on eight hundred?
Move to Rovers, you're surrounded by similarly minded individuals, in a place full of bimbos willing to throw themselves at a pro-footballer and you've plenty of cash in your pocket. You can tell your mates you're at Rovers, who are historically a decent and well supported club and one which ordinary people view as a 'big' club.
Contrast this with coming to us, stuck down here in God's waiting room, surrounded by the blue rinse brigade, with one dreadful nightclub and where you'll get laughed at for playing for TUFC, both by the girls and by your mates, who will think we're in the BSS and play pub sides on Sundays down the local rec.

Looking around the division today, it's a miracle that we're still here. Judging from the teams in the Conference, we should be, according to our size, fan base, budget and all those other practical considerations, languishing in the Skrill South. The fact that we aren't is miracle enough for me, without asking for more.
So no, it's not wrong to aspire to greatness or even mediocrity, but given the facts of the situation in which we find ourselves, it's not really wrong for us to be where we are, either.

Matt.

Matt, this is a superb post and now I think I am beginning to understand. I still think Knill should be doing much better with the players he has at his disposal and I cannot praise him thus far but in the grand scheme of things I sort of can appreciate in part what he is up against.

[wodger of awabia]

We do aspire, of course we aspire, but we're limited by much more than a lack of aspiration. We're in a division of teams, teams like Burton Albion who can stretch to paying more than we can. We're in a division of players who are "forced" to sign for the highest bidder because they only earn normal money. The difference between £150,000/week and £200,000/week is, essentially, nothing. The difference between £1200/week and £1500/week is massive.
We can't compete with 90% of clubs in L2 in terms of money. Despite you and I knowing differently, we are, in the eyes of the young, mainly pretty stupid, mainly fairly simple men that we're trying to attract, geographically disadvantaged. We are historically challenged, we're not a fashionable club, we have no history, players, agents, friend and family probably think the same as the vast majority of the population, "Torquay United, aren't they a non-league side?"

We have f**k all to offer down here. As a young, black man interested in money, easy birds and nightclubbing, do you move to Bristol Rovers on two grand a week, or Torquay United on eight hundred?
Move to Rovers, you're surrounded by similarly minded individuals, in a place full of bimbos willing to throw themselves at a pro-footballer and you've plenty of cash in your pocket. You can tell your mates you're at Rovers, who are historically a decent and well supported club and one which ordinary people view as a 'big' club.
Contrast this with coming to us, stuck down here in God's waiting room, surrounded by the blue rinse brigade, with one dreadful nightclub and where you'll get laughed at for playing for TUFC, both by the girls and by your mates, who will think we're in the BSS and play pub sides on Sundays down the local rec.

Looking around the division today, it's a miracle that we're still here. Judging from the teams in the Conference, we should be, according to our size, fan base, budget and all those other practical considerations, languishing in the Skrill South. The fact that we aren't is miracle enough for me, without asking for more.
So no, it's not wrong to aspire to greatness or even mediocrity, but given the facts of the situation in which we find ourselves, it's not really wrong for us to be where we are, either.

Matt.

Can't think of any Skrill South teams with a fan base of 2,000 +

[ferrarilover]

But I can think of an awful lot of Conference clubs who attract many more supporters than we do, pay more than we do, have more history and considerable geographical advantages over us, which was sort of a large part of the post you quoted...

Matt.

[stefano]

I know the team for tomorrow as you will know but I never put it up here until after 1.30 which is the time the opposition get the team sheets but early enough before it's put out anywhere else.

Whoopee! Disaffected player? Or a girl hanging around the training ground looking at fit thighs? Got to be one or the other!

[Colorado Gull]

The constant negativity and slating of our own club from our own fans, is rather quite depressing.

[Wisconsin_gull]

6'-3" ...Maybe we can use him as cover for our injured centre backs...