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Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:15
by Scott Brehaut
Jerry wrote:
Not "that crap" but Knill clearly thinks McCourt is better. Surely we want the best players we can get here and not just those that are "capable of covering"?
Ok - so lets say that tomorrow Manse and Craig start (I know, no chance, but hear me out), and McCort starts on the bench.
Craig and Manse play a blinder, nothing gets past them and we win the game. Midfield have a stormer. What happens then? McCort stays on the bench to ensure a winning team is given the chance to shine? Thus wasting a loan etc?
I understand what you are saying about having the best players, but we have, by all accounts, two players more than capable of playing - desperate to have a chance of proving themselves and they never get given more than a few minutes to show what they can do.
Play them, and if they are shocking then look into the loan market then - but at least give them that opportunity.
Just my opinion.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:17
by royalgull
Nothing against the lad McCourt, I look forward to seeing him play tomorrow and I'm sure he'll probably be an improvement on the current midfield incumbents. Was i alone in thinking Lathrope did pretty well at Newport? Clearly so as Knill deems Harding that much superior to him that a minor injury has forced him into the loan market. Not for the first nor last time I will completely disagree with our manager I'm certain of that.
Just think Knill's management of resources and his squad has been peculiar to use a nice term since pre season. In his mind to go a minimum 49 game season with 2 recognised centre backs was a viable option and we needed 5 strikers, 4 wingers and now 5 central midfielders. It's bonkers to tell the truth. O' Connor or someone like him a defender capable of playing CB and RB should have been here from August the 1st so as we have some sort of proper cover in those positions, when Tonge was suspended in came Tom Cruise at right back which didn't work and when we've lost a centre back in comes Cruise again to more non success.
I'd have liked to have seen an extra loan brought in simply to give Krystian Pearce ample recovery time and to actually find out what is wrong with him because they still don't know. I'm certain the doctors/physios etc wouldn't let him play unless it was fine to do so tomorrow but it's still a gamble seeing as though they are waiting today to find out still if he's had any reaction to a couple of days training. A gamble forced on us in the first place because we have left ourselves with no cover and by of course signing somebody who we full well knew would probs be off on international duty this weekend.
I am taking everything that comes out of the club with a massive pinch of salt at the moment, since their version of treatment and them trying to rush Michael Poke back has caused him a 6 month layoff in the first place. He's probably going to be on the bench tomorrow despite the fact he still can't train without painkilling injections and the next day he's in pieces again. is he fit? Really?
We've chucked points away this season from games we were totally in control of or games we were competing in because the defence we've named has not been up to league standard including the last two. I hope it doesn't cost us again tomorrow.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:19
by AustrianAndyGull
Well i don't know Jerry tbh, it was a presumption that the people were laid off because of a lack of money. I doubt i'd believe them if they said something different anyway. The club is turning into the benny hill show again.
Bang on Scott and what i was saying. Give the players we have already got here the gig short term and if it is still going t*ts up then dip into the loan market if we're desperate. What's the point in bringing him in and then starting Lathrope? I presume it is because Knill thinks Lathrope can do a job so why bring this lad in and putting him on the bench?
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:23
by Scott Brehaut
AustrianAndyGull wrote:Well i don't know Jerry tbh, it was a presumption that the people were laid off because of a lack of money. I doubt i'd believe them if they said something different anyway. The club is turning into the benny hill show again.
Bang on Scott and what i was saying. Give the players we have already got here the gig short term and if it is still going t*ts up then dip into the loan market if we're desperate. What's the point in bringing him in and then starting Lathrope? I presume it is because Knill thinks Lathrope can do a job so why bring this lad in and putting him on the bench?
I'm guessing he will start McCourt. No point in bringing him in otherwise surely?
I hope he starts for either Craig or Damon and one (or both) have a blinder and give him a selection headache!!
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:31
by AustrianAndyGull
Well i'm off out now to pick the little un up and going to put some Pearl Jam in the car on at full whack as i'm getting angry now about all this poo. Can't beat a bit of TEN and VS, after that they became shocking.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:32
by ferrarilover
The mystic Meg in me says Scotty may be in luck.
Matt.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:33
by Scott Brehaut
ferrarilover wrote:The mystic Meg in me says Scotty may be in luck.
Matt.
What? The playing a blinder bit

Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:38
by ferrarilover
Not necessarily that, but I don't think he'll plunge McCourt straight into the side. He doesn't like Craig, so DL gets the nod.
Andy, TEN is a great album, just don't deafen the nipper.
Matt.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:40
by Jerry
Ten is the big name album but I always preferred Vs. myself. Andy is correct though, everything after that was shite!
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:45
by arcadia
He could play Damon Mansell and McCourt which would make sence away from home. Just hope it works out.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:47
by supergulls
ferrarilover wrote:The rules here are a little unclear, but as far as I understand it, if a player asks for a transfer, then the 'paying-up' rule (I don't think it's a rule, as such, but for simplicity, that's the word I'm using) doesn't apply.
Were I Craig, I'd be begging Knill for a loan to somewhere, anywhere, even the Dog and Duck, just to get a chance of being noticed.
Matt.
I think Easton is working with Exeter, perhaps their kids, but this might be old news.
Easton is working with us Matt hes helping out coaching our development and youth team
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:50
by Scott Brehaut
ferrarilover wrote:Not necessarily that, but I don't think he'll plunge McCourt straight into the side. He doesn't like Craig, so DL gets the nod.
Andy, TEN is a great album, just don't deafen the nipper.
Matt.
Well, that is good news then - here's hoping the rest of my wish comes true

Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 13:53
by supergulls
AustrianAndyGull wrote:First of all, are these loanees free?
Secondly we should have signed Azeez INSTEAD of Ball at the very beginning and we have enough strikers anyway that aren't being used by Knill WITHOUT Ball.
Thirdly, McCourt for Harding makes sense but not when you have a few other squad players available. It all comes down to if the loanee is free or not.
Fourthly, O'Connor for Downes, perfect sense.
any loanee is never free as you have to pay accommodation and expenses at best even if you don't make a small contribution towards their wages
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 14:06
by ferrarilover
Wow, that's good news Super, I'm delighted.
Matt.
Re: Jak McCourt
Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 14:34
by Robiberto22
AustrianAndyGull wrote:Well i'm off out now to pick the little un up and going to put some Pearl Jam in the car on at full whack as i'm getting angry now about all this poo. Can't beat a bit of TEN and VS, after that they became shocking.
vitology wasn't bad ... but yeah autocruise since around 1995
anyway good luck to Jak hope he does well for us!