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royalgull wrote:Reading sold Shaun Allaway to Leeds at 16 for £1million. How well did he do?

Not a single football league appearance and last seen playing at Staines.

our reserve teams are getting smashed by the reserve teams of other football league sides but we want them in our first team to play first team of said sides?

our youth players (who are on the cusp of the 1st team) all joined us at 15/16 after Exter and Plymouth had free reign of the local area after years of us not having a youth team....these are the ones they didn't want.

Whenever we try and gain one of our 'promising youngsters' experience why is it not a single BSP club ever want them? why do they always end up at Bideford, Truro, Weymouth, Tiverton etc?
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I don't think Hutchings came from Exeter or Plymouth because I'm sure he was at Arsenal and Leyton Orient. Looking at some of the other lads Jamie Alexandrou was from Leyton orient too and is a Cypriot international. Jack mace was at Spurs, and the current intake includes four boys who are all Ireland internationals. And so far not a Exeter or Plymouth in sight but why let a good lie get in the way of the truth. As for our reserve fixtures due to the injuries to the first team out reserve players then get pulled from these fixtures to ensure we can put out a decent side on the Saturday, when this happens we load our team with youth team players. Which totalled 5 in number for our last fixture so then your playing a strong reserve side against a mix of youth and reserves the results are always going to be less favourable. To address your point about where the youngsters gain experience a lot of it is to do with location how many bsp teams are there in the devon area ? The loanee club has to be within a realistic distance to where the player is staying as they will have to travel to the club to play home matches. You wouldn't expect Ashley yeoman to drive on a Saturday morning to Woking or Forest Green Rovers to play a match.
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Is not a good point at all, it's a post full of shoddy assumptions and gaping inaccuracies designed to fool the lazy and ignorant into believing a grossly unfair initial supposition.

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As well addressed by my learned friend above.

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Cannot actually believe that we will now be without Bodin and O'Connor on Saturday. The way things are going we could seriously be tailed off at the bottom of the league by Christmas.
To be honest this is all becoming a shambles of Chris Roberts proportions.
All I would say is that putting the likes of Sullivan and Mackenzie into this team would be unfair on them.
Will be onto betfair shortly because we appear to have absolutely no hope on saturday.
Shouldn't we be recalling Yeoman and Thompson though?
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Well we don't really need either of them to play and both aren't deemed good enough by Alan Skrill anyway so not sure there is any need.
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Putting the hideous misfortune with Poke, Downes and Pearce to one side, there is nothing unlucky about O'Connor's unavailability this weekend. He's a Republic of Ireland U21 international and they have long had fixtures scheduled for the coming week. Much like the period when Taylor was put in charge in Ling's absence, the last two games have been surrendered while Knill rotated his needlessly excessive striking options. Here's hoping it stops now, and Ball being sent back will facilitate the arrival of an experienced central defender (Adam Lockwood, please).

Supergulls - a genuine question, why are Exeter consistently able to loan their younger players to Conference and Conference South clubs? Two examples are Elliott Frear at Salisbury for 2012/13 (he has since signed for them permanently) and Elliott Chamberlain currently at Bath City. Surely sending the DVD of Ashley Yeoman scoring two goals in the Football League (particularly the outstanding effort at Morecambe) and a ton of reserve/youth goals would've found him a club at a higher level than Bideford?
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royalgull wrote:Well we don't really need either of them to play and both aren't deemed good enough by Alan anyway so not sure there is any need.

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Maybe in the past,bideford,Tiverton etc may have been the standard where we was at. I understand that out of the current crop who need loan experience Craig and Hutchings will only be loaned out to a decent conference or conference south team. I suppose it's how much the lending club rate the player and a what standard they will want them to play at.
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Who says we want to loan these players to Conference clubs? We have a strong recent history of loaning our players to the likes of Bideford. It's extremely likely that we could loan our players to conference clubs, but we choose not to. Why are people so determined that our club is run by retards who know absolutely nothing about football, rather than presuming that they do understand what they're doing and make decisions according to different priorities than those which we, the ignorant fans, believe they should?

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So long as the pitches are of a good enough standard not too present a significant risk of injury I'm not sure it matters what level of the pyramid these players go to.
The benefit with having them local is that they can still train with us (bearing in mind that Bideford are (I think) part-timers) and that no one (them or us) needs to worry about paying extra for travel or accommodation costs.
If we send players further away to bigger clubs then someone (it's unlikely conference clubs can afford it so it would be us) has to pay travel and accommodation costs. Added to that is the standard of their coaches and training facilities - would lesser training facilities but better competition be better than our training facilities but lesser competition?
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Also with us loaning to the lower leagues we know they will get played
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Yellow4life wrote:Also with us loaning to the lower leagues we know they will get played
if they can't get games at Alan Skrill South level then how on earth are they deemed good enough to play for us?
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I agree completely with brucie.
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Haha, genius. Where did we get the impression our players won't get games at BSS level? I love the Internet, if you run out of ideas, just invent a "fact" and use that to make your point.

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It was a general point for the argument for loaning them to The Southern League. If one of the reasons is to guarantee they get games as we can't be certain they'd start at Skrill Conf or South level then why are they on the staff?
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