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Nonsense - you're looking for something that isn't there (in my opinion).

The first video, right at the top of the article, is neither "pro-Clegg" or "anti-Farage" and the second video allows Farage to explain his comments - he states he was "wildly misquoted".

In fact, one could argue that the article is more geared towards Farage than Clegg.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehous ... ainst-you/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 29639.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... stent-myth

Did anyone else watch it?

What do you think?

Who won?

Are you still undecided?



Both came across with their viewpoint quite well, both had fairly good arguments to make their points. I think there is a fair bit of scaremongering here and there and in some ways it seems like when Clegg says we must stay in or we will be in trouble that is like saying the EU nations are threatening and bullying us. Surely whether we are married to them politically or not, when there is so much money and jobs at stake they should still want to trade with us and do business.

Farage won it, in terms of both argument and presentation. For example, Clegg produced a somewhat ludicrous UKIP leaflet showing an American Indian with the words: 'He used to ignore immigration; now he lives on a reservation', a somewhat ludicrous effort to score a political point against Farage, since the leaflet came out in the 2010 general election at a time when Farage was not the party leader; he was not re-elected leader of UKIP until October 2010.

I was previously anti-EU anyway, but nothing Clegg said has changed my opinion. I remember saying in a previous post that roughly half of Australia's foreign trade is with China and Japan, yet nobody is suggesting that those countries form a political union. And this evening, Farage mentioned that nowhere else in the world is anybody suggesting that because countries trade with each other they should form a political union. Only in the European Union, and without any citizen of an EU country, and certainly not in the UK, being allowed to vote on it..!!

Leaving the EU is not in the plans of the New World Order. Whatever we say there's no way we will ever be allowed to leave. It's as simple as that.

Farage won the debate easily Clegg lost confidense and started to lose his voice half way through.
I think it's best out of europe but have a few fingers in the pie, I've felt this before Farage came along and for a change I can vote for a politition that has the same views.

Like to see him join Tories and become primeminister.

arcadia wrote:Farage won the debate easily Clegg lost confidense and started to lose his voice half way through.
I think it's best out of europe but have a few fingers in the pie, I've felt this before Farage came along and for a change I can vote for a politition that has the same views.

Like to see him join Tories and become primeminister.

Not a chance.

Agree with Danny - no chance is that happening. And Farage has said as much.

On the debate, Farage won, but Clegg didn't lose. The losers were Milibobble and Camerooon. I know clearly where the Lib Dems and UKIP stands on our relationship with Europe. And I have a whole load of question marks on Conservative and Labour plans for our two main political parties. Conservatives say referendum after election and Labour (as with most policy matters) are remaining fairly tight-lipped on the issue and just hoping they can come to power on no policies whatsoever. The lack of knowledge I have from conservatives and Labour regarding Europe will be noted in my voting in the European elections...