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AustrianAndyGull wrote:On reflection i may have been a tad unfair to Ball. I don't necessarily think he is a bad player but just that at this moment in time from what we have seen i don't hold the opinion he warrants a starting berth over Hawley or Benyon. He has scored just twice, one a massive deflection and one a pretty regulation finish although they all count. He has had some cracking afforts at goal but so has Bodin for example when he cracked one against the bar at Morecambe so most players have. What he has shown me personally in the 3 games I've seen live plus highlights of others and reports makes me come to the conclusion we have better options, long term options than him.

I accept that he may need more time to show what he can do but we find ourselves going down that road again don't we. A loan player (unless it is for a season or more) really needs to hit the ground running, we cannot be waiting around for them to 'find their feet'. Azeez comes in and bang, a goal already and a great impact and he has only played 30 minutes or whatever for us. If we have someone on loan for a month or two then they need to start ideally like Azeez has done but if not certainly be a lot more effective than Ball has been.

We've got players contracted to TUFC that can do a better job than Ball so no offence to him but i'd rather see them in the side on the basis of what I've seen so far.

In addition i also agree with Matt when he says he is just not his cup of tea. I can't quite put my finger on it but that is exactly how i feel about Ball.

As others have said though, if he is completely free then keep him here as a back up option.

wivelgull wrote:Brucie is right. I'm certain that when Ball was signed there was mention that part of the deal was that he played in every match.

ferrarilover wrote:For those concerned, no need to worry, I've called down and Hell has indeed frozen over. :~D

Matt.

forevertufc wrote:Total ballhooks, no way have we loaned, or any club loans a player in, on the understanding they play every game, of course the parent will want the player to be involved but would never insist on the player playing every game.

In Callum Ball we have player who actually played 29 senior Championship games scoring 3 goals, he also played 21 times for Coventry last season scoring 3 times in cup games including a goal away at Arsenal. If I were a League 2 manager, yes I want him around my set up, and frankly not sure want some you have watching, this lad has something, his career his been interupted by injuries, however no doubt in my mind at 20 he will go on to be a big succsses.

ferrarilover wrote:It's a squad game, a club can't just have 11 players. That said, I see why Ball was signed, he's just never quite turned out to be the player Knill thought he was. We have plenty of players to do the Ball thing, we could do with someone to do what Ball doesn't (but looks as though he should).

You wanna be careful Hector, you'll have Tezza after you for having a go about Bennerz.

Matt.

wivelgull wrote:Brucie is right. I'm certain that when Ball was signed there was mention that part of the deal was that he played in every match.

forevertufc wrote:In Callum Ball we have player who actually played 29 senior Championship games scoring 3 goals, he also played 21 times for Coventry last season scoring 3 times in cup games including a goal away at Arsenal. If I were a League 2 manager, yes I want him around my set up, and frankly not sure want some you have watching, this lad has something, his career his been interupted by injuries, however no doubt in my mind at 20 he will go on to be a big succsses.