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im with matt on this one.
what do we expect from ricey? a re-incarnation of neville southall?
did well at oxford and was let down (again) at home by some p**s poor defending.
give him a chance for gods sake.

Oh Matt you slate those attacking Ricey performance of the back of an inexpert opinion, yet by your vey own admission you have never played the game, so therefore you are defending his performance of an inexpert opinion.

I will trust my own judgement as whether he is good enough for the F/L or not ,I fully admit he was at times left exposed by the defence however i say with a lot of confidence in my own opinion on this he is niether good enough or tall enough, that said I totaly agree with Stevegull the goalkeepers are not the biggest problem.

The fact of one is not to the detriment of the other. Just because my opinion is inexpert, it doesn't serve to validate the opposing inexpert opinion, it's the blind leading the blind. The tallest goalkeeper we've had for ages has been a right liability, Bevan was so very, very limited by his height. Have a look at Joe Hart, how tall is he? Bobby is a midget, as is Pokey, and he was once the be all and end all of goalkeepers (I'm not having a pop, merely an observation, I'm still in the old school camp of preferring massive keepers).
Having seen more of reformed Ricey than most, I'm still sticking with my opinion that he is perfectly good enough as a GK in the FL. He's not going to set the world alight, but then, nor is Lee Mansell, but would we be without him?

Matt.

Well as I said, in my inexpert opinion, it has gone through his legs for the first and if his starting position wasn't his glued to his goal-line he would have swept up the fourth goal. The gasp on the popside at the fact he hadn't come out for it when Tomlin recieved the ball was pretty audible. And he looks obese in his kit. He's just not Football League standard and as others have said, never has been, IMIO.

It may well have gone through his legs, but since I see that half a dozen times a week on MOTD, I'm going to suggest that isn't a brilliant barometer of goalkeeping prowess. The gasp was probably a groan as yet another elementary, schoolboy, embarrassing Torquay **** up was about to lead to a goal, regardless of what Ricey did. He looks obese in his kit, ok, Gok Wan, that's not gay. How can he never have been FL standard, he's only had two fecking games and he kept a clean sheet in one of them...

Matt.

ferrarilover - your defence of Rice is laughable. Do you actually watch the game ? Just as Mcphee was not a league standard outfield player Rice is nowhere near a pro standard keeper.
Any fool could see he was at fault for goals one, three and four on saturday.
He had ample time to come out and clear the fourth - he is clueless, a complete liability.

Feel sorry for Ricey as this was his real chance to prove himself to a home crowd and while none of their goals were down to real gaffes on his part - he really was let down by the defence in front of him, I do feel he could have done better with two or three of the goals we let in and unfortunately on the day he didn't really make a save that was worthy of the name. Do I think we would have let four in if Pokey was in between the sticks .... probably not.

The last two games, Oxford away and Southend at home have, for me at least, encapsulated what Ricey is all about. On his day (Oxford away) he can be a brilliant shot stopper but he is at his best when what he has to do is instinctive, when he doesn't have time to think about it. When he has time to think about what he is going to do his judgement is often poor. A perfect example is their 4th goal on Saturday ( reminded me a bit of his Boxing Day disaster when Jamie Mackie was bearing down on him at SJP all those years ago) he is too often caught in two minds in one on one situations and you could see that Downes hesitated because he thought it was a ball that Rice could and should have come for, but didn't.

It's the same, in reverse, with strikers. Some, when faced with a 1 v 1 are full of confidence and you would back them to score more often than not, while others you just know won't! For Ricey, you know he will hesitate, giving he striker that vital time to make their mind up as to what they are going to do .... and almost inevitably it will end up in the back of our net.

I suppose the very fact that it has taken him to reach he age of 26 before making his league debut would in itself suggest that he will probably never hold down a regular starting berth at pro level. But having said all hat he is, by all accounts an excellent trainer and is probably a cheap option for our number two as well and so I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if he gets another contract offer in the summer .... but I just don't see him ever being consistent enough to be a genuine contender for a starting berth. His decision making is quite simply not good enough.

brucie wrote:ferrarilover - your defence of Rice is laughable. Do you actually watch the game ? Just as Mcphee was not a league standard outfield player Rice is nowhere near a pro standard keeper.
Any fool could see he was at fault for goals one, three and four on saturday.
He had ample time to come out and clear the fourth - he is clueless, a complete liability.

The only thing laughable here is your abject lack of vocabulary. If you've ever made a post which didn't describe something as 'laughable', then I've not seen it. Ask a grown up to buy you a thesaurus for Christmas.

Matt.

The only thing laughable here is your abject lack of vocabulary. If you've ever made a post which didn't describe something as 'laughable', then I've not seen it. Ask a grown up to buy you a thesaurus for Christmas.
Matt The n00b.[/quote]


You can buy me one for Christmas Matt. I need some more words that mean 'negative', 'boring' and 'predictable' , oh and one that means 'Martin Ling'.