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Launceston Gull wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 23:49 1967/68...... We had a team of old men back then wivelgull, immensely talented and certainly the best I`ve ever seen but I think the likes of Bond, Brown and Benson had lost their legs in the final run in.
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desperado wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 08:20 Doesn't seem that long ago, though I suppose it must be 15 years, we beat Bournemouth 4-0 at Plainmoor with David Graham and Martin Gritton
scoring 2 each. Incredible what they are doing on
crowds of 10,000. Must be haemorrhaging money
You seem to be overlooking the fact that they get a sh1tload of money from the Premier League....
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SuperNickyWroe wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 09:41 You seem to be overlooking the fact that they get a sh1tload of money from the Premier League....
Was about to stay the same. This is why so many clubs further down the pyramid run themselves to the wall in a effort to get there. Just one season in the Premier League could see a well run club solvent for decades.
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Think it's something like 70 million pounds a season not a bad return once you reach the land of gold and honey.
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Sorry stefano, but Benson did look a lot older and clearly on a downward spiral cos he joined Bournemouth and Exeter after he left us 😂😂😂.
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Sorry stefano, but Benson did look a lot older and clearly on a downward spiral cos he joined Bournemouth and Exeter after he left us 😂😂😂.
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OK - I stand corrected , didn't realise it was as much as 70 million
If Gary Johnson can get Yeovil to the Championship , he can get us there then we will be one step away from the promised land and our 6000 gates won't be a problem
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Ticket sales for Premier League clubs are a fairly low proportion of income, which is why Bournemouth can compete with 12,000 crowds.
TV money depends on league position and the number of games shown live, but last season West Brom received the lowest income and that was £94 million.
Meanwhile the likes of Torquay United get nothing.
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It's totally balanced to the Premier League unfortunately but for how long it can sustain itself with increased costs for buying players eventually something has to give.
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greb46 wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 12:23 It's totally balanced to the Premier League unfortunately but for how long it can sustain itself with increased costs for buying players eventually something has to give.
As long as they can keep selling the tv rights they are ok. If sky one day fail to cough up there are the internet giants like Netflix and amazon ready to step in. It's going to be a while before the premier league goes tits up.
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Guess it's the way of the world ,supply and demand the fat cats get all and the mice the crumbs fighting to survive.
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Launceston Gull wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 10:36 Sorry stefano, but Benson did look a lot older and clearly on a downward spiral cos he joined Bournemouth and Exeter after he left us 😂😂😂.
He did indeed and got promoted with Bournemouth from the league we were in whilst we went in the opposite direction. Did quite well for himself after as well and was Assistant Manager to John Bond at Manchester City reaching the FA Cup final in the late 1970's. :nod:
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I could not resist revisiting this thread.
Kingsgull83 you were right "Champions by Easter"
We have taken 25 points from the last 10 games only dropping points to WSM at Home what a crazy result and drawing at Woking.

Woking have taken just 16 points from the last 11 games winning only 4 games.
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desperado wrote: 01 Feb 2019, 12:14 OK - I stand corrected , didn't realise it was as much as 70 million
If Gary Johnson can get Yeovil to the Championship , he can get us there then we will be one step away from the promised land and our 6000 gates won't be a problem
The Champiomship that GJ got Yeovil into isn't the same one that exists now. Every year there are 3 new teams coming down from the Premier League with parachute payments in excess of £40m. And then they get another £30m the year after (if they don't go back up). This distorts competitions becasue it's theoretically possible to have 9 teams with 'free money' outside of what everybody else can have. And this is on top of what they may have been able to make from the gravy train while they were in the Premier League.

So, while it is theoretically possible for us to be promoted into the Championship, I'd say it's exponentially harder now that it was even ten years ago.

If we were to get there, our gates would be at least 12,000 - assuming we have the capacity, which would mean more money but then you'd be expected to pay Champiosnhip wages. The economics of it are probably beyond us, but I'd love to believe it could happen one day.

Hell, even League 1 has a club or two of great stature that we could never hope to compete with on an even financial footing. Sunderland get £34m this year in Premier League parachute payments. Ok, they have thier issues, but I bet that's more than our operating costs for 10+ years!
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Burton had a good run in the Championship on crowds that would be no different to ours. There are plenty of other examples too.
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