It is a sad sad day....

[Richinns]

Woke up and read the forum fall out and it has left me even more disheartened than when Dover announced Marsh!

I get it – this is a catharsis from a combination of factors….the straw that broke the camels backs….but really ask yourself if this week’s decisions which have been made are really worth throwing your hand in for a club which is in your blood?

Marsh has stated he will never kick a ball for Torquay United again. What do we do? - demand he stays and picks up his wages with the threat he will just that? We are not Man Utd - we cannot let someone rot in the (non-existent) reserves can we!

Fairhurst - has a very valid reason to leave and we have to understand this and be compassionate. As for purely the footballing side of things regarding him - he has not kicked a ball all season! We should be happy to get the risk off the wage bill and have the opportunity to bring someone (who is fit and CAN contribute) in his place.

Shepherd – well let’s be honest! He is just a little bit sh1t! Happily I would take a punt on someone else than he should the manager think they are available.

We (as a fan base) are not going to hound the manager out now are we? The time has been and gone should the board wished to have made that decision. If the fan base wants a change then it will have to come in the summer as a new manager now cannot shape his squad and will only achieve the club further costs which the club can ill afford.
As for some of the ‘personal’ things being said about the CEO, board and manager – well they are nothing short of disgusting. Talk about whether they are the right appointment, talk about them making mistakes but name calling and personal insults are far beyond the line.
Moving onto fans ‘offering’ each other out in the ground? Well it is purely shameful. The recent fallout and name calling has seen one of the best posters (CP Gull) cancel his registration. The forum will be a poorer place with the loss of people such as him. What has this all achieved apart from people no longer contributing to this community?

It is very easy to say things on a keyboard and it is very easy to provide solutions to problems which in the real world cannot be fixed by somebodies ‘idealism’ sat in front of a computer screen. Those that took the club on have given their all to try to solve this mess and it is hurtful enough for them to see the club where it is without the almighty anger which is now being directed their way. I cannot comprehend how they must feel right now - they simply cannot win on whatever decisions they are making as the pitchforks and torches are out ready and waiting every-time something comes out from the club.

Truth told the club are relegated. We all know it and most have somewhat accepted it. However - the club have decided they are going to take one last ‘Hail Mary’ play as we have nothing to lose at this stage for doing so. Let’s see what they bring in as replacements and let’s hope they click and let’s dream the impossible dream.

Regardless – I will be back for more next season as long as there is a club to return to.

[Colorado Gull]

[DJ Gull]

Woke up and read the forum fall out and it has left me even more disheartened than when Dover announced Marsh!

I get it – this is a catharsis from a combination of factors….the straw that broke the camels backs….but really ask yourself if this week’s decisions which have been made are really worth throwing your hand in for a club which is in your blood?

Marsh has stated he will never kick a ball for Torquay United again. What do we do? - demand he stays and picks up his wages with the threat he will just that? We are not Man Utd - we cannot let someone rot in the (non-existent) reserves can we!

Fairhurst - has a very valid reason to leave and we have to understand this and be compassionate. As for purely the footballing side of things regarding him - he has not kicked a ball all season! We should be happy to get the risk off the wage bill and have the opportunity to bring someone (who is fit and CAN contribute) in his place.

Shepherd – well let’s be honest! He is just a little bit sh1t! Happily I would take a punt on someone else than he should the manager think they are available.

We (as a fan base) are not going to hound the manager out now are we? The time has been and gone should the board wished to have made that decision. If the fan base wants a change then it will have to come in the summer as a new manager now cannot shape his squad and will only achieve the club further costs which the club can ill afford.
As for some of the ‘personal’ things being said about the CEO, board and manager – well they are nothing short of disgusting. Talk about whether they are the right appointment, talk about them making mistakes but name calling and personal insults are far beyond the line.
Moving onto fans ‘offering’ each other out in the ground? Well it is purely shameful. The recent fallout and name calling has seen one of the best posters (CP Gull) cancel his registration. The forum will be a poorer place with the loss of people such as him. What has this all achieved apart from people no longer contributing to this community?

It is very easy to say things on a keyboard and it is very easy to provide solutions to problems which in the real world cannot be fixed by somebodies ‘idealism’ sat in front of a computer screen. Those that took the club on have given their all to try to solve this mess and it is hurtful enough for them to see the club where it is without the almighty anger which is now being directed their way. I cannot comprehend how they must feel right now - they simply cannot win on whatever decisions they are making as the pitchforks and torches are out ready and waiting every-time something comes out from the club.

Truth told the club are relegated. We all know it and most have somewhat accepted it. However - the club have decided they are going to take one last ‘Hail Mary’ play as we have nothing to lose at this stage for doing so. Let’s see what they bring in as replacements and let’s hope they click and let’s dream the impossible dream.

Regardless – I will be back for more next season as long as there is a club to return to.

I'm not going to click the 'good posting' button, if there was a smily for 'Fantastic posting' I would click it.

I hope people take the time to read your post and take it in

[wivelgull]

Who offered whom outside? I would have liked to have seen that.

[Bloggy]

Why would anyone cancel their registration from a forum? Just don't post or read it. I don't see how the forum is to blame for any of this?
I'm dissapointed by this weeks news items... I was briefly 'angered' by some of them. I don't have any inside knowledge of what is going on but I'm over it.

As Dave said on another thread, this is my club and I'll support them (should I choose) at whatever level.
I still hope in the face of adversity that something positive will come out of this season but that's just how I am.

[wodger of awabia]

Woke up and read the forum fall out and it has left me even more disheartened than when Dover announced Marsh!

I get it – this is a catharsis from a combination of factors….the straw that broke the camels backs….but really ask yourself if this week’s decisions which have been made are really worth throwing your hand in for a club which is in your blood?

Marsh has stated he will never kick a ball for Torquay United again. What do we do? - demand he stays and picks up his wages with the threat he will just that? We are not Man Utd - we cannot let someone rot in the (non-existent) reserves can we!

Fairhurst - has a very valid reason to leave and we have to understand this and be compassionate. As for purely the footballing side of things regarding him - he has not kicked a ball all season! We should be happy to get the risk off the wage bill and have the opportunity to bring someone (who is fit and CAN contribute) in his place.

Shepherd – well let’s be honest! He is just a little bit sh1t! Happily I would take a punt on someone else than he should the manager think they are available.

We (as a fan base) are not going to hound the manager out now are we? The time has been and gone should the board wished to have made that decision. If the fan base wants a change then it will have to come in the summer as a new manager now cannot shape his squad and will only achieve the club further costs which the club can ill afford.
As for some of the ‘personal’ things being said about the CEO, board and manager – well they are nothing short of disgusting. Talk about whether they are the right appointment, talk about them making mistakes but name calling and personal insults are far beyond the line.
Moving onto fans ‘offering’ each other out in the ground? Well it is purely shameful. The recent fallout and name calling has seen one of the best posters (CP Gull) cancel his registration. The forum will be a poorer place with the loss of people such as him. What has this all achieved apart from people no longer contributing to this community?

It is very easy to say things on a keyboard and it is very easy to provide solutions to problems which in the real world cannot be fixed by somebodies ‘idealism’ sat in front of a computer screen. Those that took the club on have given their all to try to solve this mess and it is hurtful enough for them to see the club where it is without the almighty anger which is now being directed their way. I cannot comprehend how they must feel right now - they simply cannot win on whatever decisions they are making as the pitchforks and torches are out ready and waiting every-time something comes out from the club.

Truth told the club are relegated. We all know it and most have somewhat accepted it. However - the club have decided they are going to take one last ‘Hail Mary’ play as we have nothing to lose at this stage for doing so. Let’s see what they bring in as replacements and let’s hope they click and let’s dream the impossible dream.

Regardless – I will be back for more next season as long as there is a club to return to.

I would hope that the board have already realised this, & are busy planning for next season in the South ( or with our luck the North ). I can't see the point in throwing money at new players that we will most likely not be able to afford next season, as they will no doubt ask for two year contracts if they are to move to this area. I assume that admission prices will have to be lowered to be in line with other South teams, & budgets will have to be re-calculated. What are the normal ticket prices in the South? I.M.O. the task for the remainder of the season is to head hunt players that are out of contract at the end of the season. If these players are to be part time then reasonably well paid jobs, & suitable accommodation will have to be found for them. It's no good sacking the manager again, give the bloke a half decent chance to sort things out, If we had kept Hargreaves we would most likely have been lower mid table, but out of trouble, if we had kept & supported Ling then I think we would still be in L2. We are not going to get a fully experienced "Super Manager" in the South, for a start they will not to up-sticks & move down here given our recent "manager sacking" history.

[Jeff]

Conf South prices tend to be £13 (well at least Bishops Stortford are). Quite what we'd drop too I don't know - you'd think about £15 for a seat would be OK?

I've got my thoughts on how I think the club should go about its business in Conf South, but until that day comes I'll keep my thoughts to myself and back the club in the hope we can somehow get out of this mess

[wodger of awabia]

Conf South prices tend to be £13 (well at least Bishops Stortford are). Quite what we'd drop too I don't know - you'd think about £15 for a seat would be OK?

I've got my thoughts on how I think the club should go about its business in Conf South, but until that day comes I'll keep my thoughts to myself and back the club in the hope we can somehow get out of this mess

Good Plan!

[Gullscorer]

I agree with Richinns except for the relegation bit. I've not heard the fat lady singing yet.

There are no quick fixes and instant miracles in football, certainly at our level, but in the circumstances the club and the manager have done pretty well this season. Recent comings and goings have shown that they're putting together a cohesive squad with team spirit. Whether this will be in time to avoid relegation remains to be seen, but it's certainly still possible, and they deserve our support.

After all the negative events of the past couple of years I believe I'm entitled to look on the bright side. So I shall continue to give them my full support. And so should we all..

[ferrarilover]

Wodger, what possible well paid jobs are there in South Devon for a man with a footballer's IQ?

Matt.

[SenorDingDong]

Truth told the club are relegated. We all know it and most have somewhat accepted it. However - the club have decided they are going to take one last ‘Hail Mary’ play as we have nothing to lose at this stage for doing so. Let’s see what they bring in as replacements and let’s hope they click and let’s dream the impossible dream.

Except they're not. The squad has been weakened even further this transfer window not strengthened and if you think Kevin 'Contacts' Nicholson is going to bring in a stream of reinforcements over the next three days to replace those lost then you're in for a rude awakening. The club will bring in barely anyone, this is clearly shown by Nicholson being quoted as saying we're looking at out of contract players...who will take weeks to get back into match fitness. This is not squad strengthening and you're delusional if you think so.

People aren't annoyed because Shepherd has gone, he's fairly crap we all know this. People are annoyed because we were promised significant strengthening and we've actually come out of this transfer window weakened and with the real threat of barely even being able to put out a full squad for the next 4 months without relying on SDL players if we get any more injuries.

That's why people are bloody annoyed. The board promised something and have absolutely failed to deliver and none of paying fans have any confidence they'll pull a rabbit out of the hat in the next two days.

[ferrarilover]

It really doesn't matter how many times you're told, does it? You keep banging that drum, perhaps you can drown out the incessant voices that keep telling you that you're wrong. These people DO know better than you.

Matt.

[SenorDingDong]

It really doesn't matter how many times you're told, does it? You keep banging that drum, perhaps you can drown out the incessant voices that keep telling you that you're wrong. These people DO know better than you.

Matt.

They really don't. I'm betting that by next week at the very maximum we'll have signed a couple players from any of the following categories: players from Conference South/North, a player severely out of form and nearing the end of their career, a player who has been released from a Championship/L1 club with about 2 senior games to their name, someone who has played with Kev Nicholson before and isn't get game time.

When in actuality what we need is experienced conference pros in their late 20s who have the balls to fight against relegation and the experience to do so.

I await being proven wrong.

[Richinns]

Really??

So we have seen 25mins of Blissett and Harrad and Rees has yet to make his debut!

We have lost Marsh (a blow but one which the club could not have been seen coming) Shepherd who (was as you say yourself) is fairly crap and Fairhurst (who pretty much never kicked a ball for us and who will take a damn site longer to get match fit then any out of contract players out there!)

There will also be more players added with these wages freed up.

That is the truth of it no matter how much your anger is clouding judgement.

[SenorDingDong]

Really??

So we have seen 25mins of Blissett and Harrad and Rees has yet to make his debut!

We have lost Marsh (a blow but one which the club could not have been seen coming) Shepherd who (was as you say yourself) is fairly crap and Fairhurst (who pretty much never kicked a ball for us and who will take a damn site longer to get match fit then any out of contract players out there!)

There will also be more players added with these wages freed up.

That is the truth of it no matter how much your anger is clouding judgement.

Rees has barely played first team football. Harrad and Blissett were both useful squad players but neither are what you'd call in form.

Given the clubs current transfer policy and Nicholsons lack of contacts I'd really be surprised to see any decent signings over the next few days. I've no doubt we'll sign players but they won't be of the standard needed.

As I said before I'd be quite happy to be proven wrong. If Mike Bateson was responsible for all this, the forum would be up in arms instead your all happy to sit around waving your scarves and sleep walking to relegation just because the club is owned by fans.