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Hacksaw Ridge. Nominated for six Oscars. Based on a truly moving true story.
If this film is worth six nominations then Hollywood is (and I believe it is) churning out a lot of bilge.
If you like blood and gore and limbs and bodies flying all over the place then you'll love it, but after the Japs attacked (blood gore limbs bodies flying all over the place) then the Americans attacked (blood gore limbs bodies flying all over the place) then the Japs attacked (blood gore limbs bodies flying all over the place)then the Americans attacked (blood gore limbs bodies flying all over the place) Mrs Beard and I were bored.
Never seen a film with so much padding in it.
A generous (for the main storyline) 6/10

Why did the baker have brown hands ?

He kneaded a poo..

Watched 'The 33', having followed the original incident like many of us did.
I expected something that followed the unfolding story closely, but instead it's virtually a work of fiction based around a true event. Many of the ' incidents' quite simply didn't happen (the one that springs to mind is the miner who when rescued was met by both his wife and mistress who knew nothing of each other, yet in the film they are warring before he goes underground and live opposite each other!)
Also no footage of the miner who apparently spent his days waiting to be rescued running around the tunnels, and incredibly at least one of them started to mine for gold while trapped!

Disappointing, but still watchable nonetheless 6/10

What do you call a cowboy from Barnsley?






Tex Piss

SuperNickyWroe wrote:Was looking forward to this...
Now I'm not so sure....
I hope the team can put the off field shinanikins to one side and put in a good 90min performance.
Sounded like we should have beaten Braintree and hopefully we can pull it off against York.
They are worse than us so it's a real six pointer.
Difficult without Youngy and even more so Moore......
Would be happy with a point, but three should be the aim.
Will be there with Bixieupnorth the Sheffield de-dar and any other riff-raff that turn up from that dodgy city.

COYY!!!!!

We went, didn't see you there matey, you couldn't miss me I had my hi viz work jacket on, could've met up for a pint.

Gullscorer wrote:Matt, for someone I thought was almost as intelligent as me, you appear to have missed a trick here. Because you can certainly post again immediately after your last one. All you have to do is choose the option to edit your last post, then add your new post at the end of the previous one. OK strictly speaking it's not a new post, but an addendum to the last, but if it's that urgent or important, this would be a perfect solution. Alternatively, you could wait a month before posting a new post, by which time it will not seem so urgent or important, and then you needn't bother. This is always my preferred option, except that 99% of my posts are urgent and important..

Did I really read this or am I having a bad dream?

ferrarilover wrote:I FU ING COULD IF YOU'D LET ME, YOU COMPUTERY
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Edited for minors and today's generation of safe-space snowflakes.

Matt.

That perfect description of many (but not all) of the younger generation made me laugh out loud Matt

Grimsby. Very funny, even Mrs beard was laughing.

The Martian made a promising start, bit far fetched but watchable.

Then he deliberately punctured his spacesuit to get thrust towards his rescuers without his blood instantly boiling and his head exploding.........it then became yet another ordinary nowt to write home about film............

Good grief, I've read what you've selected and I can't honestly say We've any better.

Unfortunately, what we've got is piss poor, we've no chance IMHO.

I'll give you an example why. Recently newly capped England left back Danny Rose was described as still learning his trade as his defending is the weak part of his game.
WEAK PART OF HIS GAME? HE'S NOW AN INTERNATIONAL FULL BACK AND HIS WEAKNESS IS HIS DEFENDING!!!
Give me f**kin strength...........

Southampton Gull wrote:Fair enough rant actually BUT make no mistake there is a culture among Liverpool fans more than any other that makes them think it's ok to steamroller the gates at almost any club. Of course the authorities now turn a blind eye for fear of negative publicity.

We'll make a "conspiracy theorist out of you yet

Nail on head mate.

Any thoughts on what ex Chief inspector David Sumner has said today?

Exactly what both myself and Dave have been saying, it's rubbish to say the fans had no part in it! Drunk fans turning up at the last minute? Of course they had a part in it (please, please don't say this isn't true it was made up by the police, no end of witnesses not only the coppers said this DID happen but as Dave states, you can't give them any negative publicity).

And why has David Crompton been suspended? To appease the Compo claimants, he was nowhere near Hillsborough in 1989!

Remarkably The Guardian carried an article around 1982 ish (I read it while still at British Steel) entitled 'Liverpool, The City that Feels sorry For Itself'. Unfortunately i haven't been able to find a link, but this makes interesting reading

http://www.ilivehere.co.uk/liverpool-se ... -city.html

Don't think I'm a heartless person, no one should die at a football match, but as Dave says, there's a lot of guilty Liverpool fans who will NEVER admit they contributed to that terrible day.
And remember the Stanley knivings? I witnessed one inside the ground.

Them lovable Scousers eh?

Gulliball wrote: Nothing on this scale? For someone so expert on the ground its history, you appear to have not read the above links, which give great detail about previous incidents at the ground. The most notable was the 1981 FA Cup semi-final when 38 people were injured in a crush.
Notice the parallels? Ticketless fans? Rushes? Blame on the fans?

What was different this time is that the Police Officer in charge did not do any of the above. It was his first match there and did not have the knowledge to correctly control the movement of the fans. Even once the mistakes were made, nothing was done to correct them. That is why 96 Liverpool fans died and 38 Tottenham fans were only injured.

Anyway, that's my last post on the subject. You are obviously going to stick to your beliefs no matter what. The families of the victims never gave up, despite countless rejections, and have now achieved what they set out to do, which was to uncover the truth about that happened that day.

Yes I did read the links and not once have i mentioned my so called expertise on the history of the ground, just its layout, but i was already aware of these incidents. Injured in a crush? To what extent? Where is the evidence? Did any of them sue the FA, SWFC or South Yorkshire police? If not, why not? If the ground was unsafe, why was it used for FA Cup semis in both '87 (when the second worst fans in the country, the scumbags from Leeds were here) and '88?

I've been in 'a crush' at loads of matches, I've been involved in a few scrapes at football where I've had to fight or be kicked to a pulp (and I witnessed a Wednesday fan get a 60 stitch 'stripe' INSIDE Anfield YES ANFIELD on the concourse, something the bloke never fully mentally recovered from). Yes, I hate the bin dippers with a passion there's no hiding that but anyone painting them as innocent needs a reality check.

This whole charade hasn't been about justice, it's been about blame so the relatives (and don't forget, I have the deepest sympathy for the poor buggers who got in early to get a good view) can get their compensation claims in.

Which they have done within an uncomfortable time frame (it's just been announced on the news that the claims went in last year but were put on hold because it was felt they would influence the outcome of the inquiry)

Why am I (and many others) not surprised by this action?

PhilGull wrote:Oh for f*** sake. Some people need to open their eyes and ears. THE POLICE LIED. THEY ARE LIARS. IT WAS THE ACTIONS OF THE POLICE, THE AMBULANCE SERVICE, SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEATHS OF 96 INNOCENT PEOPLE. The fans were not at fault. Hopefully over the coming months we will see people caught and punished for what they did. Hopefully we will for the first time, see a high ranking police officer actually go to prison for comitting a crime, something which will hopefully set a precedent and allow us to move away from seeing police oficers who break the law simply retire and not face any punishment.

That quote is the most naive thing I've ever seen in print.

This whole subject is making my p155 boil. They could have saved two years worth of hearings, there was never any doubt that this would be the outcome and the fans would be totally absolved of blame.
I've been to Hillsborough 100s of times, even when the ground held 65,000 and I'm still in one piece. I've been to a league cup final there, play off's, the lot.
And no one has ever died at the ground at any of these matches, it held FA Cup semi finals for decades without anything on this scale, even in the days of mass hooliganism, so how did it suddenly become unsafe?
Gulliball, it's always been next to the River Don, it didn't mystically materialise in 1989 so that reasoning isn't relevant whatsoever (and yet again, if you knew the layout of the ground you would know that only a small minority enter the ground area over the bridge).

I'm going to say it again, what was different this time ? Dave hits the nail on the head, plenty of Liverpool fans played a major part in what happened. Anyone who has ever been to a match involving Liverpool will know, they are far from the 'jolly wisecracking loveable Scousers' the media makes them out to be. They aren't known around here as 'Victimpool' and 'Compopool' for nothing, and Stanley 'knife' Park is very aptly named.
Yes the police made a massive mistake and lied to cover it up but they aren't solely to blame for the events. The fact is (and this is a fact) that Liverpool bashing isn't allowed, not in the press, media or anywhere for that matter, and the inquest was never going to acknowledge the fans part in this tragedy.

And Lo and behold, before the ink on the verdicts has dried in has gone 100s of compensation claims in a class action suit against the police. This after claiming, and I quote Trevor Hickey "it's not about compensation, it's about justice".

Well they got the 'justice' they demanded, so why the claims?

Class action? The immediate claims for compensation shows they haven't got any.

Gulliball, you've followed the 'party line' that states NONE of the Liverpool fans were drunk (despite the fact that many people not only the police said many were, and we aren't talking about the ones that died but the ones arriving late from the loval pubs) and ALL of them had a ticket. Did you read any of my posts?

You also have no idea of the layout of the ground either if you think the gate that was opened (bad decision but made to try to prevent possible injury or even death outside the ground) diverted everyone to the tunnel entrance to the central central pen. It doesn't.