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This isn't about sacking the manager now.....its about the manager walking. When you're doing this badly you put your hands up and move on.

3 - 1 TUFC

Maidstone 3 TUFC 0

Colorado wrote: ↑03 Feb 2024, 19:33 So in summary
-the club is not self-sustainable financially
-the region does not produce quality players
-players/managers from elsewhere are not willing to come to Torbay
-there is no interest in the community in moving the stadium to create a financially sustainable business
-the present owner does not understand/like football
/is sick of losing money/wants to get the freehold to the stadium so that he can build on it, scrap the club, and move on


Is that a fair summary of the status of TUFC?

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has got one so here's mine (opinions not my arsehole)

The club is sustainable....its just at what level it can sustain itself and how the club would cut its cloth accordingly. At some point we may end up in this position but it might be the next time that we are a united Torquay United

The region does produce quality players. They just don't come through at TUFC.

Torquay hasn't moved. The right owner, manager, set up can attract players, motivate them, improve them, create a winning team. We're a long way from the right owner, manager, set up.

Why do we need to move stadium? Let's not lose sight that the council do not own the stadium. The people of Torbay own the stadium. Its our stadium.

God knows how the money works on all this with the club effectively borrowing money from CO. Its not helped by local councillors and the local media probably teasing the idea of a new stadium in the past to CO. I think its been mentioned on a number of occasions that the plan has always seemed to be Plainmoor becomes part of Westlands/Spires, Quinta playing fields becoming housing and TUFC move to a multipurpose stadium. With the cost of everything going up and no good location it just seems fanciful.

I don't know where we'd have to start from but personally I'd happily boot CO out of Plainmoor and pay £20 to see FC United of Torquay play at Plainmoor (rent free as goodwill from the council in view of the wider benefits that the club can bring to the town), the club to be operationally supported by volunteers as much as poss and bring the club back to the fans rather than hijacked by CO. Its not just financially for CO where this is unsustainable it's unsustainable for all concerned.

TUFC 2 St. Albans 1

Most things that Torbay Council touch turn to sh*t, most things that CO seems to touch turn to sh*t. It's very hard to think that this is going to end well. A very sorry saga.

Worthing 2 - Torquay 1

I would have had respect for his comments if he'd added....."don't give it to the young lads who are trying hard to the best of their abilities, I've been around enough and win or lose, home or away I'll front up to all the fans and take the criticisms. Spare the players and I'll take full accountability"

Chippenham 0 Torquay 0

1-0 TUFC....ever optimistic

Some of the issues lie with Torbay Council. I'd imagine they had visions of a multipurpose stadium which gave CO encouragement. Its not owners getting their hands on the freehold as much as the council/future councils encouraging opportunistic owners with profitable dreams

The Great Muta! wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 08:45 I always thought that Mike Bateson was alright, yes he was pretty dour, but very much a realist and he knew TUFC's limitations, but he never tried to fool the fans or you ever thought he was up to something, this current mob running the show fill me with zero confidence, after hearing CO talk recently with that Q&A session, you'd think he was some hot shot entrepreneur, he seemed to gloss over a lot of the reasons other ventures didn't have stadiums...Mike was Mike, Ihe knew TUFC had a hardcore of around 1600 to 1800 that come every week no matter what, and if we're near the top challenging it's around 4500 to 5000 max, he kept us solvent, debt free, I forget the reasons how it came about, but we seemed to get lots of young players from the midlands, plus Goodridge and Jack from the Caribbean, it wasn't all great under MB I'll admit, but in the main he was good for us, plus he communicated, unlike this current mob now who are tight lipped and come across very suspicious.

John James was an excellent scout for TUFC and later PAFC

2 - 1 to TUFC

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Shows the quality of the SPL when a team is signing a player from TUFC tbh