Torquay United Fans Forum

Gazzableedsgull wrote: at the end of the day you could of put Martin Rice in front of goal with the chances that Evans had and he would of scored so don't blame that on us. Why have you made it personal by saying it's been justified of me being called a moron?? was it just me? no .. i appreciate your opinion however i pay good money, i travel further than most .. on my own as well to support us so don't call me a moron for singing something you don't like!

If it was just me who didn't like it, I would say I was over-reacting, however, its not. If you had come on here and said, "fair play, it was wrong" I would have put it down as a mistake and hoped you'd learn from it. But trying to defend it makes you look like a moron.

I also travelled a long way, on my own, and spent a lot of money. But thats hardly relevant. It doesn't matter if you go to every game home and away for 30 years, or attend one match a season, if you think its acceptable to sing songs like that and can try and justify it afterwards, when an overwhelming number of people are telling you its wrong, there is no point arguing with someone like you.

Oh, and Martin Rice might have scored, but he would not of scored!!

Gazzableedsgull wrote:well how about some of you start standing with us and chanting instead of having a go at us for singing 'inappropriate' songs .. really don't understand the problem .. so frustrating being called a 'moron' for chanting a song aimed at a player to try put him off his game .. it wasn't racist, nor was it sexist so cant see why some people feel it was out of order ..

I think you've just justified why people are calling you a moron. There were a lot of people sat with me just in front of the singing section, who were joining in with all the yellow army and Torquay related songs. In the second half, I spent a good ten minutes with another lad behind me trying to keep yellow army going everytime it went a little quiet. However, I was put off joining in as soon as I heard the subject matter and was quite embarrased by it. Who knows if there was anyone there who had been subject to either rape themselves or been falsely accused, which for all we know, Evans has been. If he hasn't been, he will be punished, but all that singing songs about him is going to achieve is to put a bee in his bonnet and inspire him to work harder. Oh look, he scored twice in the second half. Great work!

It was 13th September 2001, two days after the 9/11 attacks. I remember it well.

We held our own until they brought Sherringham off the bench, and Woozley hit the bar that would have put us one up!

The steward told me at half time that we were the noisiest away fans he had heard in over a season working there! Great night out!

Having just seen the highlights on the ITV website (over 5 minutes worth!) I don't think Stevens chance in the first half could be considered a sitter. I couldn't really see yesterday, hate sitting behind the goal, but his movement was excellent to get free in the first place, and the pass was slighly behind him, whilst he had 3 players in front of him so certainly not a clear shot.

Both goals were quality, I wonder if Manse (I think) intended that throughball to Howe for the first, if he did, it was exquisite!

I'll still go to te odd away game, I'll be at Plymouth and I'll probably be at Macclesfield as I have friends up there, but I've always been proud to take my northern mates who are fans of other clubs to away days, and I feel quite lucky that none could make it today. I always used to love going to away games, and used to make 6/7 away trips a year, but today cost me over £100, and whilst I go into games knowing that my day could be ruined by the players, thats the risk you take supporting Torquay. I don't expect it to be ruined by our fans.

Austrian, it was about an alledged rape, I have no idea if the allegations are true or false, and frankly, I don't care. Its not what I go to football for. But as Matt says, won't make anymore of it, just slightly tarnished a very enjoyable day out.

Anyway, all in all a good performance, and I think people are being a little harsh on Danny Stevens, I thought he did alright. Rene Howe is immense. Mark Ellis lived up to recent reviews, and I reckon if we can keep the first 11 fit and fresh, we'll be in the mix at the end of the season.

Agree Matt, that was my first away game of the season, and I sat in front of the "Yellow Army" as I enjoy getting involved in some of the chants, and whilst there were a few good Yellow Armies and We Love You chants flying around, the first half particually, they seemed more interested in singing about Ched Evans, and I found it embarrasing. If we'd put that much effort into singing Torquay songs, more people may have joined in, and it would have been a better atmosphere.

Towards the end of the game they sang the standard, and bizarre "Loyal Supporters" and all i could think was that whilst I enjoy the odd foray to away matches every now and then, and it didn't particually take away from what I thought an excellent performance, I can't see myself commiting to more games because I don't want to be associated with that kind of behaviour.

Anyhow, I don't post on here often, but if any of you are reading (if you can read), grow up.

Dave_Pougher wrote:Talk about perspective,

What is the club record for consecative wins?? I thought it was five although I may be wrong.

I believe we either broe or equalled the club record of 8 straight (league) wins in the almost season of 98- when Jason Roberts was banging them in. Had Alex Watsons header gone in instead of hitting the post against Orient on the last day of the season, that would have been some celebration!! I had no control of my body for the whole game, I just moved wherever the crowd moved!!

I'm listening, on a boat in London. Everyone else thinks I'm nuts!!

Wish I was there, still will be at Sheffield United, hopefully on a 6 game winning run!

True!! I have also just seen that if the Cornish Pirates get promoted they may ground-share at Homo Park!

But on your original point, and as I said in mine, this could be a now or never moment, win on Saturday, and again in Jan, and we could reign over Plymouth for sometime. Lose either/both, and we may never get the chance to again!

Excuse me Southampton, but there is nothing Cornish about Argyle!! That was the one thing I hated about games versus them, all the chants were about being Cornish, and I couldn't in all good conscience join in with them!

Have to agree with you there Plymgull, growing up in Saltash, being a Gulls fan was a nightmare, and whilst I too have some decent Argyle supporting mates, I always see them as the team I want us to beat and be better than. Never thought I'd get to see that but I think its now or never!!

Having bricks thrown at me as a 12 year old boy after they robbed us 4-3 all those years ago outside Homo Park as I was going back to the car with my old man means that whilst I don't wish them to fold, I wish them an ever downward spiral!!

Where is everyone? Talking about anything?

Red Card.

Popside is buzzing!!

YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just went a little bit crazy then!!! Thank god the football season is back!!

andygullagain wrote:Stevens ineffective and about to be subbed after 65 minutes? Where have i heard that before? Anyway that aside,( i always knew Stevens was sh*t ) lets not panic and start slagging off (Stevens aside). Its a long season and a reverse at home against an average side can be evened out with an unexpected win at a fancied side. Lets keep the faith.

Stevens sounds pretty good to me so far.

Sounds like a great game, lets hope we can pull off a great comeback.