Torquay United Fans Forum

We've only looked better defensively when we had Marshall. Nelson and Booth as the back three. All brick shithouses who might not be technically any good but won the first ball every time.

I've been saying all season that this isnt Tomlinsons level and was proved right last night. Booth also doesnt look this level either. Certainly not playing right back anyway.

Downes got his tactics and team selection completely wrong last night. We needed a result last night to keep the positivity going, so in that respect it was a disaster.

Goodness knows if there is anyone still in the market to purchase the club, becuase its dying on its feet at present.

Pathetic beyond belief.

A horror show from Tomlinson who gifted them all 3 goals.

Bloody useless.

Well if he left the ground after not being picked I would suggest that he wasnt showing the correct attitude. Surely you stay in the ground and support your team - not just bugger off home.

Hardly likely to endear yourself to the management - wheres Dillon, oh hes taken his ball back and gone home.

That said good luck to him - Wealdstone is a good move for him. Quite how Wealdstone are a division higher than us is depressing in itself though - even more so that we cant win a game in that division.

Hate to say it but it appears that we have found our level - a bottom half NLS team who everyone feels sorry for. God its depressing.

You cannot compare Smurthwaite to Osbourne. So he banned the local paper so what? Whatever he might be he is nothing like Osbourne.

There are a few rumours doing the rounds. Peter Masters of course and predictably Norman Smurthwaite has been mentioned.

Load of old tosh probably but he was quoted in 2015 as saying he was unable to get involved in a purchase of the club due to his Port Vale involvement. Gone quiet on the football front since his retirement from work but was apparently trying to purchase a club later than 2020 (Notts Co, Bury and Wigan have been mentioned)

I thought he would be 100 by now looking at him but hes only 59. He's also got some serious financial clout behind him.

As is normal on a fans forum things soon descend into an argument.

As a fan from another club I dont think yeofan deserves the stick hes getting. He hasnt posted anything contentenious as far as I'm concerned. Time to move on really we've got bigger things to worry about.

You may well be correct with most of this but you are so wrong about Osbourne. You seriously think that was Osbournes money? Osbourne was never going to build houses if he got the ground. He was no doubt the front man for a property development company and 5 million would have been pin money once they started building houses had he got the freehold.

Osbourne has shown his true colours by putting the club straight into adminstration. Dont for one minute make him out as some sort of benefactor.

You are completely delluded if you think otherwise - this was always going to happen.

Not going to happen as its their policy not to stream games on a saturday in NLS and NLN.

In fact its clearly going the other way with hardly any matches bar ours and Yeovils being screened on a tuesday night now.

No doubt the reason is that most people stream these games via firestick etc so revenue is down.

Think I would agree with Dave - we are not in adminstration yet. Wouldnt be too surprised to see the club change hands sooner rather than later. Maybe need to see what transpires.

The article on the site about him leaving is interesting - there is not much praise, its a terse "Johnson leaves by mutual consent".

Possibly the article could be interpreted as he has been told to go by somebody.

Saying he has done the honourable things is complete horseshit

There are all sorts of rumours flying about - one being that Johnson had no choice in the matter, and there is a potential new owner already.

God knows whether theres any truth in it.

Its a sad day and realistically I would say there is little chance of finding a new owner with the financial clout to finance the club.

However lets not pretend that this has anything to do with a "hate war" against Osbourne - that is just utter nonsense. This day was always going to come with an owner who hasnt got the slightest interest in football.

Otherwise what owner worth his salt would still employ Gary Johnson as manager?

We are likely going to get relegated. Players will no doubt leave. However I would say better to have no club at all than one with Osbourne, Edwards,Hayman and the leeches who have been at the helm. Good riddance to the lot of them.

10 point deduction coming then - as is the southern league

If Johnson gets us promoted he stays because he has achieved his objective.

However there is zero chance of us getting promoted so he has failed and has done so spectacularly - I dont doubt that Jarvis will end up at Yeovil and we will be stuck with Brad Ash leading the attack. Jesus what a depressing thought.

You are wrong about the play offs - promotion was the minimum requirement.

Its fairly obvious the budget was there - Dawson, Lapslie, Hall. Moxey. Stobbs, Collins. Ash and Jarvis would not have come cheap. Also we had several players on contracts from last season.

Johnson intimated that he didnt expect them all to sign so its clear where the money went.

As the poster says he is the most arrogant bloke ever - he never takes responsibility for anything. Never takes ownership of anything - its always the players, the officials, the supporters at fault - never his.

What is also clear is that the team is completely disorganised. With Downes and Johnson living so far away I doubt whether they are anywhere near South Devon more than two days a week.

I would take a guess that they are contracted to the end of the season - I might be wrong but I guess that he could be a on pay off if he is sacked before then.

Sacking him or not probably makes no difference - this team is getting nowhere near the play offs. He will be gone at the end of the season. Unfortunately its going to take the new man more than a pre season to sort this mess out.

Thats always presuming we still have a team next season.