Torquay United Fans Forum

Well the writing has been on the wall and this result was really no suprise after Saturdays crushing defeat.
One look at our subs bench tonight and that told its own story. The cupboard is bare. With all due respect to the two loanees, taking Benyon,Wroe and Zebroski out of the team has torn us to pieces.
Plus points - well we have Zebroski to returm and he is still a big player for us.
Negatives? - far too many to mention.
I am certainly not going to blame Buckle - at some stage we have to have to some backing from our board of directors. Selling our best players for sod all is one thing, but replacing them with a team full of loan players is just asking for trouble.
Much like last year we are now in a position where one or two injuries to key players will probably see us relegated, such is our lack of strength in depth.
Its desperation time

Depressed.....I know I am

He did not looked fazed but it was an odd match to bring on such an inexperienced player particularly as we had the jet heeled Hemmings who appeared to be the managers love child about a month ago. Mind you its no stranger than the Macklin situation.
Signed on last year after doing nothing when he was here on loan. Does nothing at all this season and is given an extra years contract. And is now completely frozen out. explain that one?

Pointless whinging about Crawley cheats - we could not beat them in the conference and we went exactly the same way yesterday.
We just about got everything wrong yesterday. We could not get the best part of two thousand people through the gates in one and a half hours which was a complete embarassment.
We gave Crawley 45 minutes start with Buckle employing the same ludicrous formation that meant we would never score.
And in the second half our players comitted hari kari .
Yes the ref was utter shite. Yes Evans/Raynor - we know what they are like blah blah blah. I tell you what Raynor was loving it - he was grinning at the fans as he went off at half time. He knew they had us beat then. He must love coming to Plainmoor - winning is a piece of piss for them.
Hardly a pleasurable day out and my encounter with a load of moronic stewards at the end of the match absolutely put the tin hat on it.
I won't be repeating the experience in a long while.

There will be more than that there - the game is being hyped like thers no tomorrow. Radio Devon keep running trailers for the game. Believe me this will be nigh on a sell out.

I will probably go but its going to be an early start as I reckon that I will need to be at the ground by 1330 at the latest.
I just don't want to risk travelling and not getting in.

So as one of those who is faced with the prospect of a long drive, having to turn up on spec and hope I get in, I should be happy that oppostion fans should be going in the home end. You cannot compare this game with Barrow away at all.
Space is going to be at a premium, its going to be a highly charged atmosphere, not to mention the two tossers in charge of Crawley who are quite capable of starting World War 3 without any other help.
Its only going to take one idiot from either set of supporters) to start a problem.
Its just asking for trouble.

Yes you are quite right - the unwilligness to make this game all ticket for all fans is quite frankly nothing short of ridiculous. Its about as ridiculous as away fans trying to enter the home end, which actually seems to be what you are proposing.
However peaceful your intentions might be, its actually asking for trouble. Do yourself a favour and act with some common sense - if you have not got a ticket don't travel.

When will the club ever ever learn? This game should have been made all ticket weeks ago. i am not now making the journey as I have no guarantee of getting in.
It is nothing short of pathetic.

Not been on yet. Should be in the next five minutes. Just waiting for the excuses.

The Crawley game has really complicated this for me. can we afford to sell anybody before this game. Can't really see it myself. 19 professionals and precious little back up. We can ill afford any injuries to key players or indeed to let anybody go before the Cup Tie. If we can get our full team on the pitch I am convinced we have too much particularly going forward for big billy bollocks Crawley.
However if we go in without any of our big guns we are going out.

Having watched the win over Derby I would say that we are in for a very hard game. They thoroughly deserved their win although for a championship side Derby were abyssmal.
Certainly the after match reaction seemed to be that they were going to reach the fifth round, and if anything that sort of over confidence may count in our favour, not to mention Crawley have a couple of midweek matches as well before the Cup Tie.
Clearly what sort of chance we have may depend ultimately on what sort of side we get on the pitch. If we sell the likes of Benyon and Ellis then there is no chance we will win.
If we put out the side that won against Carlisle and Crewe and play well we can do it.
I thought the two Crawley Central defenders looked a bit leggy and vulnerable to forwards running into the channels - that said god knows what Clough was doing playing one striker.
I would certainly see the combination of the roadrunners Benyon and Zebroski causing massive problems for their two at the back.
Lets hope they think that they have done all the hard work by beating Swindon and Derby.

Plain fact is we are not winning any games - ok a decent peformance at Shrewsbury, but we are not scoring goals, we are not winning and seem to be on the sort of run that came along far to often last season. I would be looking at our points total from games played recently as a better indicator than the fact we played well last Saturday. However well we played, we actually played one up front and scored one goal which was a penalty - no indication that we are going to outsore Crewe really.

Good news - we are out, just goes to show that our back up is completely crap though.

I think there is probably a clue to why Buckle doesn't start him................