Torquay United Fans Forum

Southampton Gull wrote: ↑31 Oct 2018, 17:50 If that's what you think then you need to get out more.

Says the bloke with a post count approaching 8,000...

Are you saying there's no far-right element amongst our Stone Island warriors then, oh Voice of Plainmoor?

MellowYellow wrote: ↑31 Oct 2018, 16:17segregate us at away matches as if all Torquay supporters were part of an 'Antifa Movement'

Weird bit of political one-sidedness. Are you Donald Trump?

My minimal contact with our wannabe hoolie element suggests they've got more in common with the people Antifa groups are against.

Exeter - The Regional Capital!

Lived here most of my life now. TUFC is the only thing that brings me back to the Bay. Don't really like the place TBH.

Maybe a little OTT and knee-jerk but I do think the OP has a point. United have always struggled to gee up the notoriously apathetic South Devon public, but a certain level of rot seems to have set in long-term, unrelated to what happens on the pitch.

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk ... racts.html

"Private Equity manager Adrian Beecroft has donated over half a million pounds to the Tories since 2005.

Beecroft is the head of the private equity group that administers the barely legal loan shark operation Wonga. The Wonga business model is to prey on the mentally ill, the financially illiterate and the absolutely desperate by offering them usurious loans at eyewatering interest rates. The typical interest rate on a Wonga loan is an incredible 5,853% APR!

Even in the free-market obsessed United States, such outrageous loans are illegal, but here in the UK the Tory party are stubbornly resisting efforts to regulate the so-called Payday lending sector and introduce maximum APRs. Does this resistance have anything to do with the fact that one of their biggest donors runs one of the biggest legal loan shark operations in the country?

In 2012 the Tory leadership invited Beecroft to draw up Tory employment policy for them."

Gullscorer wrote:Certainly UKIP is a sensible refreshing change from the other political idiots.

Hope I'm not being 'pietistic' again...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/micha ... ious-ukip/

Gullscorer wrote:Rolf Harris is 83 years old and would have been 50 and 56 years old at the times of the alleged offences. He has been happily married for 55 years. He met his wife, the Welsh sculptress and jeweller Alwen Hughes, while they were both art students, and they married on 1 March 1958. They have one daughter, Bindi Harris (born 10 March 1964), who studied art at Bristol Polytechnic and is now a painter.

No bearing on the current allegations and trial, but many people who met him would testify that he is not the genial character he liked to portray.

I recall his roadshow programme in the early-80s drew many complaints from parents of chidren who visited the show. Two kids from my school went to the Plymouth show and said he was horrible, and I've had another report from soemone who met him on another occasion describing him as a 'miserable bastard'.

Gullscorer wrote:Is your arse really speaking for the common man, or are you just farting..?? :na: =D

I used a well-known British colloquialism to criticise UKIP as a party. You've made a clumsy attempt to twist that into a childish personal dig.

Very UKIP.

Gullscorer wrote:Just heard Nigel Farage's speech at the UKIP conference. Just what this country needs.

What, another public school educated former City trader who wants to kick the teeth out of anyone poorer than him and his multi-millionaire backers? We've already got enough of them ruling over us as it is. 'Speaking for the common man' my arse...

UKIP always give the impression of making up their policies and the statistics to back them up as they go along, and one of their senior blokes was on the radio this morning and as good as admitted it - after he'd dealt with all the headcases they've had to suspend from the party over recent years...

chunkygull wrote:oy, whats wrong with paignton then?

Sorry, just not the town it was. My mum still lives there and when I walk from the station to her house all I see is closed shops and dodgy ratboys. There wasn't much work when Ieft in 1995 and I'd imagine there's even less now. It's still got some good aspects to it, but overall it just feels faded and sad.

Croydon born, Paignton bred.

Mum's family are originally Londoners, most of whom moved to South Devon in the 1940s and 50s. My mum followed them for a spell but moved back to London, married my Israeli dad, then joined the rest of the family in Torquay a year after I was born. We moved to Paignton in 1974 and that's where I grew up and consider my hometown, for better or worse.

My grandparents were big football fans, nominally Charlton supporters, but they would follow their local non-league team, Bromley, as well as watch West Ham and even Millwall. I suppose in those pre-hooligan, pre-televised football days a lot of people were just happy to watch a game, even if it wasn't their team - an Evertonian mate of mine said her family and friends would happily watch Liverpool or Tranmere when Everton were away. Anyway, my gran and grandad carried on the habit and started supporting the Gulls when they moved here. I went to my first game in 1978. To begin with my brother and me both supported London clubs as well as Torquay (West Ham and Crystal Palace respectively) but that gradually waned until we were both one-club fans of United.

Exeter for me.

I suppose I'm supposed to say something derogatory, but I like it here and I ain't moving back to Paignton in a hurry. Sorry!

Glostergull wrote:There have been a few notables who came from Cheltenham in past years.
But Cheltenham is not so famous for producing footballers. Much better in the Arts and media though.
Gustav Holst leads the way really. Composer of the wonderful planets suite. Ralph Richardson the Actor. Kate Thornton. (is this one for The Boilers thread boys). Richard O'Brien of the Rocky Horror Show. Arthur Negus. (For the oldies who remember the Antiques roadshow. No not us antiquties). Mark Lester. Again one for the Oldies who remember the film Oliver Twist. E were Oliver E were. Robert Ardy of Vetinary Fame. Eh by Gum! I have been reliably informed that one Mike Grady came from there too. ( Got a feeling he was in last of the Summer Wine. As well as Corrie)

Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones and Brian Eno too. You don't have to have a Brian/Brien in your name, but clearly it helps...

Scott Brehaut wrote:Warmest regards, A knee-jerk halfwit.

Not sure why you took my post so personally. What I had in mind were the likes of a long-term poster who made the ludicrous claim that Roy McFarland was the worst Torquay manager he'd ever seen as results suffered whilst he assembled the core of the team that got promoted under Leroy, or the former poster who took against Leroy when results slid in the second half of his first season in charge and, having made his bed, silently sulked as we stormed to promotion and then waited until the following season to issue his I-told-you-sos.

Scott Brehaut wrote:if his brief is to start off the season with one win in the first seven league games, obtain 6 points in the process and be out of two cups in the first round, thereby ensuring a worse start than last season, then he is doing very well and is fulfilling his brief to the letter. One would hope that the Board have higher aspirations than that though.

I would be surprised if the board had set Knill a target of where they want United to be after seven games.

As others have said, I would hope there is a Plan B on the horizon if things don't start to pick up very soon. Maybe there is no Plan B, maybe Plan B will prove flawed or ineffective? Right now, painful as it may be, I'm prepared to be patient and see. If things are looking no better by the end of October and we are indeed in the bottom five coming up to Christmas, rest assured I will recall that you were right all along...

Lloyder5 wrote:I suspect he is holding on to his plan A. Something has to change soon, either it'll work or changes will be made.

I quite agree. It's quite possible that Knill is testing all manner of positions, players, players' attiude and tactics at the start of the season where it will all be forgotten in a few months time, assuming all goes well . Who knows what brief he's been given - plenty of managers have done it before, although none of the knee-jerk halfwits on this forum or its previous incarnations seem to learn that lesson.

If we're near the bottom of the table at Christmas, then clearly it's gone wrong and questions need to be asked. Right now, painful and irritating as it may be, let's see how things pan out.