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[quote=brucie post_id=205598 time=1494365781 user_id=162]
Winning awards at a relegated team doesn't mean an awful lot though does it. Could it be that he was the best of a bad bunch.

I havn't "rubbished" him at all. I am just countering the view that "he is far too good for League 2" (probably made by someone who hasn't seen him play this season either.

For the past two seasons he has been part of a defence that conceded shed loads of goals. That's probably the only common denominator. If hes that good then no doubt other teams will be queuing up to buy him. If not then he will be plying his trade in League 2 next season (assuming of course that their new manager decides to play him every week)
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Well if the new manager, doesn't play him we will have him back. I'm sure he will move elsewhere though.

Winning awards at a relegated team doesn't mean an awful lot though does it. Could it be that he was the best of a bad bunch.

I havn't "rubbished" him at all. I am just countering the view that "he is far too good for League 2" (probably made by someone who hasn't seen him play this season either.

For the past two seasons he has been part of a defence that conceded shed loads of goals. That's probably the only common denominator. If hes that good then no doubt other teams will be queuing up to buy him. If not then he will be plying his trade in League 2 next season (assuming of course that their new manager decides to play him every week)

Can I remind you Nathan swept the board winning 5 awards at Port Vale as mentioned by the originator of this thread.

That takes some doing and Brucie I think you are being very unfair in your assessment. I can just imagine how you would feel if your son won 5 awards and was then rubbished by someone who had not seen him play!

Fair comment?

So how many times have you seen Smith play for Port Vale then this season?

Plain fact is that Smith played in a team that conceded 76 goals last year. This season he has played in a team that conceded 70. Despite playing in a worse team than the one we had last year McGinty was part of a team that conceded 61 goals this year.

As Arcadia quite rightly says Smith hasn't got the strength or presence to cope with League 1 forwards. Yes Smith may have been a regular but he was picked every week by Johnny Foreigner who subsequently got the sack - that might indicate the managers judgement wasn't up to much.

Don't know how good Smith may have been this year really but he seems to play in teams that concede a hell of a lot of goals.

Says Brucie who saw McGinty play once this season, and Smith a few times last season ?
He has been watched by several Championship clubs this season, we will see if he moves up the leagues
Bog standard league two? Laughable !
What makes me laugh is posters who come out with all these expert comments, who see about half a dozen
games a season !

'Bog standard League 2' is a fairly generous assessment coming from Brucie. And several levels above where he rated Angus's future to be.
Overall, I think Brucie generally provides a reasonable assessment of most players, and it could just be that analysing central defenders is his weak spot ? :)


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I think that Nathan was lucky he played with such a strong character as Angus as he does not have the stength yet but Angus did. I stated at the time I felt Angus was player of the season last year. Nathan is a good player though and best of luck to him.

Smiths a bog standard League 2 player - nothing more nothing less.

The comments on here are just laughable. Smiths too good for League 2? really - where exactly is the proof of that then.

Personally I would rather have Mcginty every day of the week.

That's a ridiculous thing to say, Brucie (if you are being serious).

The Crewe team of 1987 that, like us, narrowly avoided relegation, had Geoff Thomas and David Platt in their midfield.

Our relegation-battling team from last season had a player who a year later has played a full season in the Championship.

One player does not make a team Brucie and Nathan was brilliant for us.
I think he played every game for Port Vale this season which suggests he added to his reputation albeit in a losing team.

Seems like Smith is good at one thing - playing in a losing side!!

He obviously isn't as good as he is cracked up to be.

Back on thread ! Really pleased to read that Nathan Smith is so well liked by Port Vale fans. He was a big hit at Plainmoor as well. Never gave less than 100% in a struggling side. Sorry to see Vale relegated, though. They started the season so well and then started to slip further and further down the table. Shame.

Lavercombe was at Plainmoor last Saturday. He was chatting with the North Ferriby keeper, who was on loan from Wigan, before the start of the second half.

[quote=Gulliball post_id=205328 time=1493940674 user_id=101]
He went to Rhyl on loan. He's back at Wigan now and still only 20, so has time on his side.
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That's good. Previous post said he had signed for Rhyl, thankfully not permanent.

He went to Rhyl on loan. He's back at Wigan now and still only 20, so has time on his side.