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Re: FA Cup Draw

by jonnyfive » 04 Dec 2012, 20:30

lucy6lucy wrote:End of we are out of cup, so I don't care what eventuality happens.
Sorry to waste your valuable time by discussing it Lucy :na:

I generally admired Buckle's management, but I'll never forgive him for bottling his tactics against Crawley in that 4th Rnd tie. A 5-4-1 with Rene is one thing; fielding it with Benyon up top was cowardly, and cost us the once-in-a-lifetime chance of playing against MU at Old Trafford.

Now there was an eventuality to care about!!

Re: FA Cup Draw

by jonnyfive » 04 Dec 2012, 20:19

Good shout on the AFCs gentlemen. Surely that's the lot... Andy definitely would've checked the league tables!

Re: FA Cup Draw

by AustrianAndyGull » 04 Dec 2012, 17:47

AFC Bournemouth? :whistle:

Re: FA Cup Draw

by stefano » 04 Dec 2012, 17:45

jonnyfive wrote:Part of the Cup's charm; it does add to the pangs of regret that one knows who they would and could have faced, all the way to Wembley.

PS Forgot to mention Aldershot as another candidate for Ball 1. Not that I can see they or Stanley reaching the Championship any time soon!
Or indeed Wimbledon in their reincarnated guise of AFC Wimbledon. I'll get my coat ....! ;-)

Re: FA Cup Draw

by tktufc91 » 04 Dec 2012, 17:39

Good luck to which ever of the two teams win the replay, I hope they give Middlesbrough a run for their money.

Re: FA Cup Draw

by lucy6lucy » 04 Dec 2012, 16:22

End of we are out of cup, so I don't care what eventuality happens.

Re: FA Cup Draw

by jonnyfive » 04 Dec 2012, 12:19

Part of the Cup's charm; it does add to the pangs of regret that one knows who they would and could have faced, all the way to Wembley.

PS Forgot to mention Aldershot as another candidate for Ball 1. Not that I can see they or Stanley reaching the Championship any time soon!

Re: FA Cup Draw

by stefano » 04 Dec 2012, 08:53

jonnyfive wrote:Not to step on Stefano's toes, but in Round 3, the Prem and Champ teams are alphabetically allocated balls 1-44. Therefore, until Accrington make it into the 2nd tier, the Gunners will always be number 1 in that round.

Balls 45-64 are of course the 20 surviving teams from Rounds 1 and 2, but the allocation of those balls is determined by the tie number in Round 2, ie in which order the matches came out of the velvet bag.

Not very interesting but correct to the best of my knowledge!
Absolutely right jonnyfive. New clubs come in to the competition throughout the qualifying rounds and again in round 1 and then finally in round 3, so the numbers allocated when new clubs come in will be more than the ties in the previous round. It is though the tie that is important, so had Torquay beaten Harrogate we would have had the same ball number as Harrogate had in the second round draw. Just as two years ago we would have had the same ball number as Crawley in the 5th round and been drawn away to Manchester United. C'est la vie!!

As you rightly say though not very interesting! ;-)

Re: FA Cup Draw

by jonnyfive » 04 Dec 2012, 00:33

Not to step on Stefano's toes, but in Round 3, the Prem and Champ teams are alphabetically allocated balls 1-44. Therefore, until Accrington make it into the 2nd tier, the Gunners will always be number 1 in that round.

Balls 45-64 are of course the 20 surviving teams from Rounds 1 and 2, but the allocation of those balls is determined by the tie number in Round 2, ie in which order the matches came out of the velvet bag.

Not very interesting but correct to the best of my knowledge!

Re: FA Cup Draw

by ferrarilover » 04 Dec 2012, 00:10

Stef, you know everything, why are Arsenal always ball number one?

Matt.

Re: FA Cup Draw

by Scott Brehaut » 03 Dec 2012, 21:17

austrianandygull wrote:I just thought some people would like a chance to discuss their views on the draw in general and how they would have felt if we had still been in it.

Shouldn't have really f*cking bothered in all honesty. Nobody else is.

Probably get pelters for 'another pointless thread' now too. :-/
Oh woe is me :) :~D :na:

Re: FA Cup Draw

by LukeGull » 03 Dec 2012, 21:11

Didn't watch the draw, were there any interesting matches?

Re: FA Cup Draw

by AustrianAndyGull » 03 Dec 2012, 21:07

I just thought some people would like a chance to discuss their views on the draw in general and how they would have felt if we had still been in it.

Shouldn't have really f*cking bothered in all honesty. Nobody else is.

Probably get pelters for 'another pointless thread' now too. :-/

Re: FA Cup Draw

by stefano » 03 Dec 2012, 21:03

happytorq wrote:It's so unlike me to correct people, I know, but this is wrong. If we'd beaten Harrogate we would not have drawn Hastings - the ball numbers are allotted alphabetically so we would not have had the same number as Harrogate, and therefore we'd not have met Hastings. For the same reasons we'd have been a different number in the 3rd round draw and so would not have been scheduled to meet Middlesbrough.

Which is why all this "Would Have Met" talk is rather daft in the FA Cup :)
Agree that worrying who we would have played in the 3rd round having been knocked out in the 1st round is daft! However I do need to correct you as there is nothing alphabetical about the draw numbers. If we had beaten Harrogate (which of course we didn't) we would have been at home to Hastings. If we had then beaten Hastings we would have been away to Middlesbrough. In the FA Cup each tie is allocated a number. The winner of that tie is allocated a number for the next round and it is the tie number so is the same irrespective of which team won.

There is still no point in caring about who we would have met in the 3rd round ... but it would have been away to Middlesbrough! ;-)

Re: FA Cup Draw

by happytorq » 03 Dec 2012, 20:40

austrianandygull wrote:Well obviously if we had beaten Harrogate i would have expected us to beat Hastings at home so we would be going to Middlesbrough in the third round.
It's so unlike me to correct people, I know, but this is wrong. If we'd beaten Harrogate we would not have drawn Hastings - the ball numbers are allotted alphabetically so we would not have had the same number as Harrogate, and therefore we'd not have met Hastings. For the same reasons we'd have been a different number in the 3rd round draw and so would not have been scheduled to meet Middlesbrough.

Which is why all this "Would Have Met" talk is rather daft in the FA Cup :)

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