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Re: Negativity and our finances

by Gullscorer » 18 Jun 2012, 17:51

There should be sell-on clauses so if the players move on again for big bucks we would have some share in the benefit. If there are no such clauses, somebody should be asking serious questions..

Re: Negativity and our finances

by AustrianAndyGull » 17 Jun 2012, 21:51

Again, IMO £500k for both players is a jest but like supergulls says, Martin can rebuild the team with most of the cash and that is the most important thing. Bobby is a star and saved us just about every week but i believe most keepers at our level are of a pretty similar standard therefore we could bring in a new keeper and not be too disadvantaged. Also like Jerry says, if we can add a few more numbers to the squad then it would give us more options than the cack on the bench last season.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by supergulls » 17 Jun 2012, 21:16

Gullscorer wrote: Is that £500k for both players in total or £500k for each player?
That figure was just over £500k for both players combined.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Jerry » 17 Jun 2012, 16:26

northyorkshiregull wrote:If the fee we are accepting is so low then surely there will be a dozen club banging the clubs door down to get such a prize asset so cheaply.Although there have been a lot of lookers and EOK agent is touting him to a lot of clubs Crawley are the only ones coming up with a offer
This hits the nail on the head for me. If the club has so severely under-rated the value of EOK with this release clause, surely there would have been a host of clubs meeting the valuation? As it is, it seems that only Crawley think he is worth that sort of figure.

What was the one failing or our side last season? Not enough strength in depth. If by selling a couple of "star" players we can afford to bring in 4 or 5 decent league 2 players to replace the dross we had on the bench last season then I for one am all for it! Just hope it all gets sorted quickly so Lingy can work his magic and get in the players which he has undoubtedly already identified.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by tufcbrett » 17 Jun 2012, 12:57

forevertufc wrote: Very true Brett, however I can't see us paying out massive transfer fee's though, expect alot will go towrds biger better contracts.
Neither do i, but still means even if theres a player out there worth say 40k we want, then we can get them. But with the amout of players who are out of contract, money to give better contracts will be ideal.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Gullscorer » 17 Jun 2012, 11:38

supergulls wrote:when players have clause's in their contract such as a set figure when that figure is triggered there is not a lot any manager can do about it. I spoke to Martin the other day and the figure for both players is just over £500k and he is very happy with that figure for two players he got for free. The deal for bobby is nearly complete but the offer for Eunan has been accepted but not gone through yet. Martin feels he can rebuild the team with this sum and he has been told by the chairman he can have virtually all the money brought in.
Is that £500k for both players in total or £500k for each player?

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Dave » 17 Jun 2012, 10:40

tufcbrett wrote:Players come and go. Bobby is a class act we all know this but there are many keepers out there we could sign and could do us a decent job.
It will surpise many how far say 500k can stretch for some quality player at our level. Not only that, theres players out there who are on a free but some of that budget could help with some wages ect that maybe we wouldnt have been able to offer before.

I know it looks like its dark times, but if they go its exciting times. We will have a more balenced squad which we will benefit from more
Very true Brett, however I can't see us paying out massive transfer fee's though, expect alot will go towrds biger better contracts.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by tufcbrett » 17 Jun 2012, 09:17

Players come and go. Bobby is a class act we all know this but there are many keepers out there we could sign and could do us a decent job.
It will surpise many how far say 500k can stretch for some quality player at our level. Not only that, theres players out there who are on a free but some of that budget could help with some wages ect that maybe we wouldnt have been able to offer before.

I know it looks like its dark times, but if they go its exciting times. We will have a more balenced squad which we will benefit from more

Re: Negativity and our finances

by supergulls » 17 Jun 2012, 09:01

i agree that bobby will be hard to replace as he was outstanding last year and martin said he was the best goalie he has ever worked with, but funnily enough he also said that this was the position he was least worried about refilling as he was very confident he could pick up another goalkeeper.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Dave » 17 Jun 2012, 08:48

Thanks for that post Supergulls, meaning this as a general point to all, of course it's frustrating, we missed out on promotion, and a few of our better players may well be off, but rather than losing your heads over it , see the bigger picture.

We all know our club is not flushed with cash, and our squad finsihed way above in the league where they should have done, out of the three who mayw ell leave, Bobby.O is the only where Lingy will struggle to find a like for like replacement, Eunan and Mark sorry to say it, however it's the truth are evry replacable.

As said by cpgull and others , if all three do go, it will bring in around £600k , even if Lingy only got his hands on 50-60% of that money, it will give him a warchest to bring in the players he wants, and give us a squad with more strenght in depth, get an extra 4 points out of our squad next season, and at last we will be a league 1 club, no need for the negativity.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by supergulls » 17 Jun 2012, 08:26

cambgull wrote:I highly doubt Lingy WANTS Eunan or Bobby to leave but he really isn't doing much to stop it and isn't showing any intention to stop it. Any manager who really wanted a player would reject a bid and then release a statement that the player isn't for sale in the media.
when players have clause's in their contract such as a set figure when that figure is triggered there is not a lot any manager can do about it. I spoke to Martin the other day and the figure for both players is just over £500k and he is very happy with that figure for two players he got for free. The deal for bobby is nearly complete but the offer for Eunan has been accepted but not gone through yet. Martin feels he can rebuild the team with this sum and he has been told by the chairman he can have virtually all the money brought in.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by cambgull » 16 Jun 2012, 23:22

Wasn't there some kind of negotiation that happened after the Carayol tribunal? I'd imagine the buying club will at least be able to negotiate how they pay the fee. I can't imagine they would leave a team in the lurch of paying a tonne of cash upfront.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Gulliball » 16 Jun 2012, 21:02

Both sides are tied to it. If it's more than a side were expecting then that's part of the risk - although it's never going to happen as sides would be able to pay it, it would just add to their losses.

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Yellow4life » 16 Jun 2012, 19:12

Then, surely they lose out?

Re: Negativity and our finances

by Aussie » 16 Jun 2012, 18:56

Scott Brehaut wrote:If a tribunal was needed for one of our players (say Ellis for eg) and they set a fee that the buying club couldn't afford, what happens?

Anybody know?
Like you said they can`t afford it, they can`t have it!

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