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by **miltonkeynesgull** » 12 Nov 2010, 09:53

To the best of my knowledge, Wolverton's old ground was demolished to make way for a new housing estate, but after a local news campaign, the stand (the oldest covered one in the world - built in 1899) is still there and will either remain as a monument or be moved somewhere else. It's a shame they moved ground really - I'm playing against Wolverton for my local side on Sunday! I quite agree about the people of MK not supporting their existing clubs - and living round these parts just makes me prouder to be a Gull!

John

by **Jeff** » 11 Nov 2010, 20:31

But didn't the demise of MK City lead to the demolition of the ground at Wolverton, which had something like the oldest stand in the world (or something of equal significance). It is a sad state of affairs that local historic clubs struggled and ultimately died - if the people of MK wanted a league club so much they should have got behind one of the existing clubs.

talking about the game in which we lost 3-2, I actually thought we played pretty badly. We had 2 shots in the whole game (pretty much), both of which Ward scored from. At half time it felt like it was going to be one of those games where we just got the rub of the green, but quite the opposite happened.

by **miltonkeynesgull** » 11 Nov 2010, 17:21

Awayday wrote:I was there that night at the Hockey Stadium. If I remember rightly we didn't play particularly well, but Ward scored very early and very late in the first half, both long balls up the pitch for him to run on to.

MK Dons may be good for the community, but wasn't there already a Milton Keynes FC that were much lower down the league structure, which ended up being closed due to MK Dons taking over?

No we didn't play that well, but it certainly wasn't a game we deserved to lose! As for the club that folded, there was an MK City FC that played in the Southern League (or something like that) which managed to fold twice - once in the late 80s, and then again in 2003 after they'd reformed (not long before the Dons arrived). Whether it was connected to the Dons arrival I don't know. With MK being an amalgamation of lots of historic towns, like Bletchley, Newport Pagnell and Wolverton, there's plenty of football on offer at a similar level to MK City were at, so I don't think it's a massive disaster.

by **Awayday** » 11 Nov 2010, 10:33

I was there that night at the Hockey Stadium. If I remember rightly we didn't play particularly well, but Ward scored very early and very late in the first half, both long balls up the pitch for him to run on to.

MK Dons may be good for the community, but wasn't there already a Milton Keynes FC that were much lower down the league structure, which ended up being closed due to MK Dons taking over?

by **YellowM25** » 11 Nov 2010, 07:15

Jeff wrote: Yes.

Possibly one of my worst experiences of a TUFC fan. That game was one of the turning points of that season. Blatant cheating by the MK Dons players, and the ref ordering the re-taking on their penalty once Nathan Abbey had saved it was ridiculous and depressing in equal measure. I'm pretty sure Phil Prosser was the ref, and it was one of most memorably bad refereering displays I'd ever seen (along with Salisbury away in the BSP).

The home game against MK Dons that year wasn't any better either.....

I was sat in the home end for this game :Oops: and the mood over there was one of quiet relief to say the least... they all knew it was a game we should have got atleast a point out of.

As soon as Mickey Evans hobbled off we imploded.

YellowM25

by **Jeff** » 11 Nov 2010, 06:40

miltonkeynesgull wrote:Living in Milton Keynes, I have quite a few mates who are MK Dons fans, and I think in all honesty that both sides would rather this potential tie had never happened. I'm as big a critic as anyone of the way Milton Keynes 'acquired' it's football club, and can only think how devastated I'd be if a similar thing were to happen to the club I love. But what they, and Pete Winkleman to some extent, must be praised for is the way they've thrown themselves into the community here (something maybe Bletchleygull could attest to?). They are a constant face at public events, and in local schools, and make a real effort to attract young kids and families to home games with some very good offers. An aspect I daresay we could improve upon (although with this weekends prices, perhaps we've turned a corner).

Still, nothing can eradicate what they did to the club and it's fans in the first place, and I have massive admiration for AFC Wimbledon and what they've acheived. If it happens, it will be an intriguing tie. Just on a purely selfish level, I'd quite like to see the MK Dons win so that we can draw them in the 3rd round, and exact some revenge for the last time our two sides met (beginning of the 2005/6 season? At the now demolished National Hockey Stadium, Jamie Ward had put us 2-0 up at HT, only for us to lose 3-2 after some dodgy defending and some even dodgier refereeing! Anyone else on here there that night?).

John

Yes.

Possibly one of my worst experiences of a TUFC fan. That game was one of the turning points of that season. Blatant cheating by the MK Dons players, and the ref ordering the re-taking on their penalty once Nathan Abbey had saved it was ridiculous and depressing in equal measure. I'm pretty sure Phil Prosser was the ref, and it was one of most memorably bad refereering displays I'd ever seen (along with Salisbury away in the BSP).

The home game against MK Dons that year wasn't any better either.....

by **miltonkeynesgull** » 10 Nov 2010, 23:26

Living in Milton Keynes, I have quite a few mates who are MK Dons fans, and I think in all honesty that both sides would rather this potential tie had never happened. I'm as big a critic as anyone of the way Milton Keynes 'acquired' it's football club, and can only think how devastated I'd be if a similar thing were to happen to the club I love. But what they, and Pete Winkleman to some extent, must be praised for is the way they've thrown themselves into the community here. They are a constant face at public events, and in local schools, and make a real effort to attract young kids and families to home games with some very good offers. An aspect I daresay we could improve upon (although with this weekends prices, perhaps we've turned a corner).

Still, nothing can eradicate what they did to the club and it's fans in the first place, and I have massive admiration for AFC Wimbledon and what they've acheived. If it happens, it will be an intriguing tie. Just on a purely selfish level, I'd quite like to see the MK Dons win so that we can draw them in the 3rd round, and exact some revenge for the last time our two sides met (beginning of the 2005/6 season? At the now demolished National Hockey Stadium, Jamie Ward had put us 2-0 up at HT, only for us to lose 3-2 after some dodgy defending and some even dodgier refereeing! Anyone else on here there that night?).

John

by **ferrarilover** » 10 Nov 2010, 17:17

Play at a neutral venue to allow every supporter wishing to see the game to do so?

Never going to happen, but is it a good idea in general? Chances are that only local derbies at lower league clubs (I know that 3,000,000 people would have a ticket for Man Utd v Liverpool, but this isn't the sort of match to which I refer) which would require this, so I'm sure a suitable local venue could be arranged such as not to inconvenience one team noticably more than the other. More money from gate receipts and infinitely more importantly than this (football exists, after all, solely to entertain, it serves no useful purpose) many, many more people would be able to attend a game which may never again occur.

Thoughts, or am I mad, or better yet, should I start this as a thread such as not to clog up this already very interesting thread with an equally interesting one of my own? Mods, if this is the case, please do the necessary.

Matt.

(Honestly, I kock out this rubbish at an unprescedented rate, yet ask me to do 1000 words for a law essay and can I even think where to begin, can I 'eck as like!!!)

by **Fonda** » 10 Nov 2010, 15:18

I'm thinking that the majority of AFC fans will have been waiting for this day since the inception of their club. So although the support of the wider football community is commendable, perhaps the tickets should be saved for their own supporters...? I wouldn't like to think that many of their own supporters missed their big moment because the tickets were taken up by everyone else.

by **Awayday** » 10 Nov 2010, 15:02

Good article Happy.

I have been searching through all sorts of forums on the subject of them meeting and it seems the general public want to boycott it so that MK Dons don't get a share of the money and secondly if it is televised then the empty crowd would embarass the TV company.

Realistically MK Dons are favourites, so surely the more people that get behind AFC Wimbledon and get behind the team, the more chance there is of MK Dons being beaten, and not getting any more money through further rounds.... Obviously AFC Wimbledon will be in the 3rd round draw and might get to play a big club like Liverpool (1988).

I personally will be keeping an eye out for this one, and will make an assetive effort to go with my TUFC shirt and stand with them shoulder to shoulder. I think any football fan who cannot make their own game on that day, should be in Kingston for this one, with their team colours and supporting football as well as AFC Wimbledon. I might even take the drum

by **happytorq** » 10 Nov 2010, 14:22

Blatant plug time: I wrote a piece about this on an American site. Match Fit USA

by **HRG** » 10 Nov 2010, 13:47

It is still quite raw my brother won't refer to them by name and hates that they call themselves the Dons. If he went it would be for some sense of satisfaction to see AFC win (I hope) but it wouldn't make them forgive or forget. A boycott would be effective I think but so would an array of different football shirts in the AFC end, if not more so. If it happens it will be highly charged.

by **JoeBarlow** » 10 Nov 2010, 00:45

tempting but I think tickets will go fast

by **sexygulls** » 10 Nov 2010, 00:21

An AFC fan of mine tells me that Wimbledon do not want this game. Basically they don't even want to acknowledge that MK Dons even exist and by playing against them they would legitimize them. There's serious talk of a boycott if the game happens, at least amongst fans.

by **Plymouth Gull** » 08 Nov 2010, 18:52

Surely the tickets would be in such high demand as AFC get a near on sell out for league games, so surely these would be taken within hours?!?!

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