Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

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Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Modgull » 15 Jun 2011, 11:37

Fonda wrote:North got no credit for what Bucks acheived. Likewise i doubt Russell would take any of the blame if Ling failed. Few give much praise criticism/praise to a number 2 either way.
Whilst this is absolutely true Fonda, I personally feel SN was critical to PB's success here and will be at Rovers too

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Fonda » 14 Jun 2011, 18:39

North got no credit for what Bucks acheived. Likewise i doubt Russell would take any of the blame if Ling failed. Few give much praise criticism/praise to a number 2 either way.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by basil75 » 14 Jun 2011, 18:31

I agree it's not a move without risks, but then, if Ling did get off to a bad start and Russell was part of the team:

1) Would everyone see him as 100% blameless - he would, after all, be part of the losing management team - many may believe complete change is needed

2) He would go from completely inexperienced, to inexperience with his only small experience being of losing and bad management - can't see many who weren't backing him now backing him to step up in this scenario.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Fonda » 14 Jun 2011, 18:16

highweekgull wrote: I agree - i just love all these people who have such exact knowledge without being involved in all the discussions or conversations

One manager might have wanted 3x as much or wanted to stay up in SCotland and commute, etc

I see this as a positive thing if we have a manager of experience, a player coach of Russell's calibre (who will keep the idiots who just want someone they know quiet) - that to me spells the right thing to the other players (who hopefully havent been listening to all the idiots on here) and will make them think "This is a set up that can achieve"

Getting it right psychologically is half the battle!
Can you not see that having a 'fans favourite' working directly under the manager might make things difficult? Ling has got off to a rocky start with some already. If we went through a difficult patch of results, the calls for Russell's promotion to the top job would be immediate and widespread. It adds pressure to an already under-pressure manager. I'd love to see Aggy back, and i'm sure the younger players would benefit from a player of his type, but it's not a move without risks.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by highweekgull » 14 Jun 2011, 13:42

basil75 wrote:Who's to say this arrangement would be forced upon him.

Ling hasn't just come out of a job - his preferred people may already be employed elsewhere or are unwilling / unable to move down here (remember back room staff are older than players and therefore more likely to be settled with family).

He may have already met with Russell and they both feel they could work well together for all we know.
I agree - i just love all these people who have such exact knowledge without being involved in all the discussions or conversations

One manager might have wanted 3x as much or wanted to stay up in SCotland and commute, etc

I see this as a positive thing if we have a manager of experience, a player coach of Russell's calibre (who will keep the idiots who just want someone they know quiet) - that to me spells the right thing to the other players (who hopefully havent been listening to all the idiots on here) and will make them think "This is a set up that can achieve"

Getting it right psychologically is half the battle!

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Trojan 67 » 13 Jun 2011, 22:11

gullno4 wrote:I wouldn't put it past the board to put Danny stevens in there ;-)

:O :O :O :rofl:

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by basil75 » 13 Jun 2011, 22:08

Who's to say this arrangement would be forced upon him.

Ling hasn't just come out of a job - his preferred people may already be employed elsewhere or are unwilling / unable to move down here (remember back room staff are older than players and therefore more likely to be settled with family).

He may have already met with Russell and they both feel they could work well together for all we know.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Jerry » 13 Jun 2011, 22:05

Are these the same "reliable sources" that have spent the last 2 weeks saying Hargreaves or Forster were imminently going to be unveiled as manager?

*Not aimed at anyone in particular, just fed up with all the misinformation! :@

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by TUFC92 » 13 Jun 2011, 22:03

Don't see that this would be such a bad thing. As long as Ling wants him here.

If he does, not only do I think he'll still be a decent signing as a player but his experience and influence on some of our players would be great. Lathrope and O'Kane could definately learn from Aggy.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by gullno4 » 13 Jun 2011, 22:00

I wouldn't put it past the board to put Danny stevens in there ;-)

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by PlainmoorRoar » 13 Jun 2011, 21:58

dannyrvtufc4life wrote:Just been informed by a very good source that Aggy will be Player Coach, but I'm sure this story will all come out tomorrow.

If this is the case, im scared thats why Ling got the job!

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Jeff » 13 Jun 2011, 21:58

I'd heard similar myself, which is what I was alluding too on the Martin Ling thread when I said that his backroom staff might bring some positives

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by Colorado Gull » 13 Jun 2011, 21:29

Just been informed by a very good source that Aggy will be Player Coach, but I'm sure this story will all come out tomorrow.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by taunton_gull » 13 Jun 2011, 21:20

Much as I'd like to see Aggy return to the club at some point in the future in some ways I hope this doesn't happen for ML's sake. Having an assistant forced upon you, someone who you've never worked with before is a massive gamble. As Fonda pointed out a few dodgy results and some fans may be calling for AR to replace him if this happens. I'd much rather Ling brought in an assistant of his own choosing. I would be surprised if the board made this a condition of the offer as there is a big risk it might not work out. If ML took the job and it was a condition perhaps it suggests how badly he needed a job... but we'll wait and see. Although rated by Yeovil I don't really know how much AR will have left in his legs. A lot of time has passed since his glory days here.

Re: Alex Russell to return as Player/Coach ?

by CP Gull » 13 Jun 2011, 21:00

I wouldn't rule it out.

Let's face it, at the very beginning the Board (Bill Phillips I believe) gave an interview on the BBC and he stated that ideally they would like an experienced Manager with perhaps a Player/Coach if they could afford it. Of course if that is the only option available to him (Ling) he may have his own man in mind, but as others have suggested a lot will depend on whether Aggy as Player/Coach was "part of the deal".

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