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Re: Mark Ellis

by Fletch » 16 May 2011, 20:11

Fonda wrote: That's a curious start to a post? Hate to agree with me, or with my opinion of Ellis? :~D Law of averages would suggest we'd agree on some things.
Hate to agree, in that he has the ability to play 2 divisions higher but for what are elementary errors in his game (as you pointed out). If he could stamp them out he would be a cert for a big move before long..

Dont get used to me agreeing all the time though :na:

Re: Mark Ellis

by gulls_aloud » 16 May 2011, 18:06

yellow wrote:
Surely Bucks will have learned the lesson from that game that should not be mentioned?
Amen to that. The single most shocking post-match comment that remains with me to this day after THAT play-off semi-final is that Buckle said that he didn't look at the clock and he didn't know how much time was left. I DID !!!!!! It does worry me that he could be the one that struggles with our big games (eg bizarre substitution against Crawley), so let's hope he doesn't let us down this time - I'm sure the players won't! COYY

Re: Mark Ellis

by yellow » 16 May 2011, 17:46

Fonda wrote: Did we not play 3 at the back against Exeter in the Play-Offs? We certainly did at their place, and i seem to recall that with a lead we did it in the home leg too.

We don't need to be gung-ho, but i'd be concerned if we set up camp on the edge of our own box from the first whistle.
Surely Bucks will have learned the lesson from that game that should not be mentioned?

Re: Mark Ellis

by Plymouth Gull » 16 May 2011, 16:54

Can't see it happening, for the reasons said above.

Re: Mark Ellis

by Fonda » 16 May 2011, 16:42

Very true Dave. No danger of that i reckon!

Re: Mark Ellis

by Southampton Gull » 16 May 2011, 16:41

I usually disagree with both of you, what a boring forum if we all agreed too often :)

Re: Mark Ellis

by Fonda » 16 May 2011, 16:37

Fletch wrote: Hate to agree but youre right. Also has a liking for switching off every once in a while in games and ball watching when he should be watching the striker next to him. I would certainly use him as a target man up front for the last 15 minutes if we are chasing a game and need to go long ball. He was originally a striker if I remember rightly before Exeter changed him to a defender
That's a curious start to a post? Hate to agree with me, or with my opinion of Ellis? :~D Law of averages would suggest we'd agree on some things.

Re: Mark Ellis

by Fletch » 16 May 2011, 13:11

Fonda wrote:Ellis's primary weakness remains his positional sense. He's also not the most mobile - or comfortable with the ball at his feet. I don't see him a centre-back that could play right-back at all. He'd be a fish out of water if asked to 'over-lap' his winger. I have no reason to think he could put a cross in when required either. It's a big no from me. But it's all about opinions.
Hate to agree but youre right. Also has a liking for switching off every once in a while in games and ball watching when he should be watching the striker next to him. I would certainly use him as a target man up front for the last 15 minutes if we are chasing a game and need to go long ball. He was originally a striker if I remember rightly before Exeter changed him to a defender

Re: Mark Ellis

by Fonda » 16 May 2011, 11:32

brucie wrote:i'd be more than happy seeing Ellis line up alongside Robbo and Branston in the second leg at Shrewsbury. Ellis is a warrior and exactly what we need cause its going to be a war. Three in central defence would suit me. I know Buckle is saying that we are going to attack but do we really need to?
Did we not play 3 at the back against Exeter in the Play-Offs? We certainly did at their place, and i seem to recall that with a lead we did it in the home leg too.

We don't need to be gung-ho, but i'd be concerned if we set up camp on the edge of our own box from the first whistle.

Re: Mark Ellis

by royalgull » 16 May 2011, 11:30

All I'd say on that point brucie, is if I remember correctly we did that for Exeter at home in the 2nd leg (albeit with different personell) and it went spectacularly wrong. Hargreaves made the point post match, couple of times Bucks has gone defensive like that it's gone wrong, so i'd be surprised and a bit disappointed if we went there with a negative mindset of trying to hold what we've got.

If we can get the first goal really think it'll be curtains for them.

Re: Mark Ellis

by brucie » 16 May 2011, 10:57

i'd be more than happy seeing Ellis line up alongside Robbo and Branston in the second leg at Shrewsbury. Ellis is a warrior and exactly what we need cause its going to be a war. Three in central defence would suit me. I know Buckle is saying that we are going to attack but do we really need to?

Re: Mark Ellis

by Fonda » 15 May 2011, 09:53

Ellis's primary weakness remains his positional sense. He's also not the most mobile - or comfortable with the ball at his feet. I don't see him a centre-back that could play right-back at all. He'd be a fish out of water if asked to 'over-lap' his winger. I have no reason to think he could put a cross in when required either. It's a big no from me. But it's all about opinions.

Re: Mark Ellis

by highweekgull » 15 May 2011, 06:18

This isn't to do with mansell but about Ellis, I think he could be an outstanding player at right back (could be wrong of course) because the only times he looks vulnerable at centre half is with bouncing balls over the top and when he gets out of position.

Well as all us long term defenders know positionally full back is so much easier because in one side you are playing to the line

He has all the attributes a full back needs - I just hope they try that kind of thing...

Re: Mark Ellis

by robc » 15 May 2011, 00:37

Am I only the only person that can see that Manse is far more effective at right back? He gets up and down so well, I'll admit, he does get beaten for pace by wingers sometimes, but I always thought he lacked a certain something when playing in the middle. If alongside someone like Stanley, who is creative, then I can imagine Manse would be effective. But if we do end up signing Stanley and Oastler, along with Lathrope and O'Kane, I think that Manse should stay right where he is...

Re: Mark Ellis

by tommygull » 14 May 2011, 20:22

Ellis is a great talent and I would be disapointed to see him slip away. If playing him at right back kept him at the club I reckon he could do as good a job as Manse.

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