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[quote=tomogull post_id=224216 time=1523536234 user_id=20311][i][b]Wow - that's a hard-hitting article. Verging on slanderous in some parts I would think.......[/b][/i] [/quote]

Such as that arch-NIMBYistic [i][b]'Imagine retiring to a beautiful home by the sea after fifty years of slog and waking up each morning to see the Lego box property of some sociopathic dogsbody blocking your view and destroying everything you have worked for'[/b][/i]

In an age where affordable housing has all but disappeared from the scene and a realsitic chance of the nation's adolescents ever beng able to afford a home of their own; I find that line quite obscene.

Let's protect our retirement home by the sea and let them live at home with their parents or in cardboard boxes under the railway bridge so that we tdon't have to see any ordinary homes as we look out of the window or sit in our garden.

....better still, let 'em move to London eh tomogull? ;-)

[quote=tomogull post_id=224216 time=1523536234 user_id=20311]


Sorry guys - this has nothing to do with the credibility problem on Gary Owers. But you know how us old b*ggers love to wander off subject!
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That's OK, since the Mr O referred to in the thread is actually Mr Osborne.

Should the thread be every decreasing credibility problem?

[quote=Soupdragon post_id=224213 time=1523533744 user_id=23912]
Ah, I'm much more at home with this sort of stuff. Readers may be interested in the article at the following link ...

https://countrysquire.co.uk/2018/03/13/council-traumatises-whole-neighbourhood/

... much of which is not factually correct, of course. But the main thrust remains. And, of course, councillors don't in any way come under the purview of a local MP. He's not the boss of them.

Interestingly, Country Square Magazine appears to have it in, in a major way, for Torbay Council. I've been entertaining myself with wondering quite where the impetus for this has come from.

Again I remind everyone: in just over a year, this council reverts from a directly elected mayor who is answerable to the people (and at least we have someone to point at) to a leader of the council, who is answerable essentially just to his local party chairman. [/quote]

Wow - that's a hard-hitting article. Verging on slanderous in some parts I would think. Interesting that the writer cites the 'tame local press'. Here again, no proper investigative journalism by the Herald Express which under the current editor, is a poor shadow of what it used to be when it was a daily evening paper.

Currently, there is a huge planning application for more 'little boxes' somewhere between the Brixham Road and Stoke Gabriel. It is not in the Local Plan and has previously been refused following a Planning Enquiry I believe. I am not fully conversant with the details, but if it is passed by the Council, then we might start to believe that councillors are 'in bed with local developers'. But as you point out, MP Kevin Foster has no jurisdiction whatever over Torbay Council and the writer should have known this.

Sorry guys - this has nothing to do with the credibility problem on Gary Owers. But you know how us old b*ggers love to wander off subject!

[quote=Neal post_id=224212 time=1523533523 user_id=342]
Nicho was probably sacked NOT because of results but because he wouldn't sign up to CO's plans and demolition of the club.
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Of course that's a reason he was sacked. What do we think that Osborne is more interested in? Results on the field or the possibility of profiting through a property deal?

Nicholson said in an interview shortly after being sacked that some 'very naughty' things were going on behind the scenes. Who knows what's going on now that he is out of the way.

Ah, I'm much more at home with this sort of stuff. Readers may be interested in the article at the following link ...

https://countrysquire.co.uk/2018/03/13/council-traumatises-whole-neighbourhood/

... much of which is not factually correct, of course. But the main thrust remains. And, of course, councillors don't in any way come under the purview of a local MP. He's not the boss of them.

Interestingly, Country Square Magazine appears to have it in, in a major way, for Torbay Council. I've been entertaining myself with wondering quite where the impetus for this has come from.

Again I remind everyone: in just over a year, this council reverts from a directly elected mayor who is answerable to the people (and at least we have someone to point at) to a leader of the council, who is answerable essentially just to his local party chairman.

At last some common sense!

but are you all going to still hand over your hard earned money next season, I reckon you all will.

Nicho was probably sacked NOT because of results but because he wouldn't sign up to CO's plans and demolition of the club.

[quote=brucie post_id=224201 time=1523525380 user_id=162][i][b]That maybe the case but the simplest way to achieve relegation would surely have been to have not sacked Nicholson. [/b][/i][/quote]

Now we no longer suffer the indinity of of travellling to away games in a minibus driven by the manager but of sitting grandly in the Plymouth Argyle team coach as at Dover last weekend.

All the home comforts these wannabee professional footballers could wish for including i32 full leather seats all set around tables, entertainment system/wifi, CD player, DVD player, 5 monitors and 1 mini table monitor, toilet washroom, kitchen with 5 fridges and 2 microwaves, ice making machine, and inverter with sockets throughout coach.....everything except the ruddy contents of a bona fide professional squad inside it!

At least it's a step up of the utter humiliation of arriving in the Truro City bus as well!

[img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/806/26431242437_f8e6d6da89_b.jpg[/img]
[b][size=150]So impressed with the i32 seats they took them into the ground with them too![/size][/b]

It's been a few months since Harrop said osborne would be liasing with the various media in conducting interviews ECT

So where is this ?

I have forwarded the "Freedom of Information" to a local Torquay United supporting Councillor.
I will update when he replies..........as he always does.

Hopefully the gullible on here will finally realise that the all-singing and dancing, state of the art, concert venue is a complete myth.
And that Osborne had no intention of ever building one.
Oh and by the way there may also be a football pitch

That maybe the case but the simplest way to achieve relegation would surely have been to have not sacked Nicholson.

That would also have been cheaper than paying compensation to another club for their manager.

I completely echo the concerns of Merse and Forest Gull regarding relegation meaning a lower tier ground. I said at the time that the whole bungling affair of this season, from sticking with Nicho and allowing him to build a squad to sack him after four games, to the ridiculous wait for a new manager, to the underwhelming appointment of Owers and Kuhl, all seemed too convenient when relegation might be in our owner's best long-term interests. Relegation = less support = less resistance, and as people have pointed out, less effort required for a new ground.

I may be sceptical, but I fear...

Relegation = Osborne gets his wish = Plainmoor sold = new stadium will be Regional standard (Cheap) = no return to the league possible

One thing osborne has not shown us is a detailed or even a undetailed outline of a new stadium. Usually these things are made for tempting viewing when you can see what's on offer.
It would be embarrassing I bet. Anyhow won't be as good as plainmoor , plainmoor is league one standard.

Surely the most damning of evidence that Clarke Osborne is industrious indeed on realising a return for his near £1 million 'investment' into what is superficially referred to as 'Torquay United' by the tame local media and swallowed whole by the more gullible members of this forum but of course is his slow burn way of turning the screw on the local politicians.

Give him enough time of strangling the life out of this football club and it's relationship with it's supporters, and it will drop so low in the football pyramid a cheapo ground something akin to Buckland Athletic will be put up as the so called Riviera Stadium rather like his 'IKEA style' self assembly job sitting in a South Wales yard still waiting to be moved to Swindon.

Let's end this pretence which is also perpetrated by Owers and Harrop that only Clarke Osborne's injection of capital is keeping this club alive that some posters on here use as ammunition to throw at those more diligent and sceptical than they are.

The council's refusal to grant access to what they have is both scandalous and undemocratic if not downright corrupt and who's to say it is democratically elected councillors Osborne is 'aligned with' and not salaried officers of the council?

[b]Reference: [/b] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/contents