Torquay United Fans Forum

[quote="merse btpir" post_id=221435 time=1519115277 user_id=23969]
[i][b][size=150]Where the fans' forums go today; the Herald Express take nine months to follow![/size][/b][/i]
[b]Read what [i]BTPIR[/i] were saying last April:[/b][/quote]

[i][b] "It is not a greyhound stadium, nor a speedway club. It is a football club; a community football club that is denying them the freedom of information, transparency and communication they were promised by the last board of directors who gradually denied that; handed the ownership on to you in secretive circumstances and you have come in with a terrible history of closing down sporting venues never again to see their sport carry on in the towns in which they stood." [/b][/i]

[b]......and then what Richard Hughes wrote in the Herald Express last month:[/b]

[i]'Torquay United is not a pawn in a game of Monopoly, an end to a means; an opening gambit in a property deal. For me, and the club’s devoted fans, Torquay United is a living, breathing thing; once you took it on, Mr Osborne, you were charged with not only keeping it alive but also helping it thrive and prosper.'[/i]

[b]It's like an echo coming back after nine months isn't it![/b]

Keep it coming Merse - if the result does not go our way tonight this may be the sole topic for the rest of the season.

Great stuff merse will have a good read when get in tonight

[i][b][size=150]Go tell it to the birds........[/size][/b][/i]
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[i][b]“Torbay as a community deserves a multi-purpose stadium capable of attracting new entertainment options, as well as becoming a new home for Torquay United, but I reiterate the point we have always made: nothing will happen to Plainmoor until a new stadium has been built and is ready for use by the football club.......we plan relocation to a new purpose-built stadium by 2020"[/b][/i]
[b][size=150]~ Clarke Osborne: 17/07/2017[/size][/b]
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2020 eh? It's now 2018 and we're waiting to hear from you Mr Osborne![/size][/b]
Read more: http://thelondonlabia.proboards.com/thread/2661/gordon-oliver-stadium?page=15#ixzz57dTEhOAF

Great stuff Merse.

As you say GI knew objections would help his devious plan - back in the first year of this "venture" there were objections registered due to the excess noise of the "would be speedway track"

Another poster on here will already be aware of this name but if anyone has time .....................look into the CO cohort William Glass esq

He of Hackney Greyhound Stadium - Shut
Wimbledon Greyhound Stadium - Shut

And lo and behold he now sits on the National Greyhound Racing Board

As merse says...........if you don't believe it now - you never will !!!!!!!!!!!

[i][b][size=150]Where the fans' forums go today; the Herald Express take nine months to follow![/size][/b][/i]

[b]Read what [i]BTPIR[/i] were saying last April:[/b]

[i]So Clarke Osborne goes on a belated charm offensive and uses the Herald Express as his publicity conduit ~ the very same Herald Express that has lost credibility as an authentic seeker and teller of truth; that invites ridicule for it's ambivalent and cosy approach to the manner in which Torquay United now conducts itself, failing to keep it's most important stakeholders ~ the supporters ~ in the picture and rendering them fearful of the owners intent and plans for the future.

Why do Gaming International think over five and a half thousand people sign a petition calling on the Mayor not to put the freehold of Plainmoor up for grabs? Why do they think over four thousand will stream into the ground on Saturday anxious that the club doesn't drop off the cliff edge of national football into a regional abyss of their own making?

It's because they care for and love their football club. It is not a greyhound stadium, nor a speedway club. It is a football club; a community football club that is denying them the freedom of information, transparency and communication they were promised by the last board of directors who gradually denied that; handed the ownership on to you in secretive circumstances and you have come in with a terrible history of closing down sporting venues never again to see their sport carry on in the towns in which they stood.

You talk about 'Swindon' and how it's new stadium lays in a yard somewhere in Wales waiting to be bolted together. You tell us how whilst it lays there the old stadium carries on functioning; but you don't tell us about what happened at Reading and why they no longer have the speedway and greyhound racing they once had. You don't tell us about what happened at Milton Keynes or why greyhound racing never returned to Bristol once you sold Eastville off to build an IKEA.....and don't even get us started on Bristol Rovers![/i]
Read more: http://thelondonlabia.proboards.com/thread/2661/gordon-oliver-stadium?page=15#ixzz57dQCwNdV
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You want the confidence and support of the fans? well don't rely on the Herald Express to achieve that for you because they have no credibility beyond being reduced to a mere mouthpiece that doesn't ask the real questions and ignores the obvious fears and suspicions of the supporters. Do you think we ~ BTPIR & torquayfans.com don't want to see a safe and secure future for our football club? You think we want to wallow in this pool of non league nonentity we are currently in for any longer than is necessary? It's not at all about just staying at Plainmoor and not being able to function in the modern day and age; it's about the worries and fear of being exploited and ripped off for gain, of the carcase of our football club being discarded once it has fulfilled it's purpose for perceived predatory ownership. Show us that you really want this football club and not just it's football ground Mr Osborne![/size][/b][/i]

[b][size=150]More evidence for Parker & the council..........[/size][/b]

The [b]'Gordon Oliver this stadium is ours'[/b] thread on [b]BTPIR[/b] is essential reading f you are interested in the substance or lack of it of Clarke Osborne and his 'Five Year Plan' for Torquay United and the gullibility and emptiness of the faction who argue that 'at least he is paying the wages'

Read it; and take note how Osborne never comes to fruition with any of his pie in the sky promises and particularly how his latest farce is about to be culled through those pesky planning objections in Swindon ~ or is that what a developer intends and knows what will happen all along so that the carrot of the 'stadium' never has to be delivered?

After years of empty promises and claims that 'the new Swindon Stadium' is packed away in a factory in South Wales; Osborne now wants to scrap the original plan for a rebuild of the current old wreck and surprise, surprise he's going to encounter fierce opposition on planning grounds. Well there'll be those who never saw that coming won't there! :whistle:

[b][size=150] This is the location of the proposed new stadium on the left and the actual location of the present one on the right......[/size][/b]
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[b][size=150]This collage says it all for GI's priorities during the last decade at Swindon. All those houses, no new stadium development. Wonder how much Gaming International have made from partnering with the house builders?[/size][/b]

There are 16 pages of this diligent research into Osborne now, and yet local yokel idiots like Jim Parker ~ the editor of the local paper ~ are taken in by this charlatan and his acolytes in the ~Sports Dept consistently decline to expose the same and continual failings that [b]BTPIR[/b] does.......why?

http://thelondonlabia.proboards.com/thread/2661/gordon-oliver-stadium?page=15
[b]Read the latest page and when you have time go back and read the whole sorry tale; then if you're one of those shouting down the efforts of [i]TUST[/i], [i]BTPIR[/i] and [i]torquayfans.com[/i] to put all of the story out into the public domain so that all stakeholders and local bureaucrats can make a valid and informed decision.[/b]