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Yorkieandy wrote: 16 Sep 2017, 10:29 What you mean the bit where he said, "no one would ever condone laughing at someones disability"?

Which is exactly what you did Brucie. You laughed AT Ling for having the disability and not WITH him about his disability.

Laughing WITH Ling about his disability is fine if he's ok with that and is the point you made about keeping things light hearted with your family if they are suffering but laughing AT someone because they have a disability isn't fine which is the clear distinction i've been trying to make and trying to point out to people on here as being unacceptable.

For example, say you were at work and in a busy staff room eating your dinner with other staff and you were taking the piss out of a disabled colleague who wasn't present in the room and having a laugh, just as you were taking the piss out of Ling. I am sure that many people would confront you about it as being acceptable or even report you to management for it.

If you were in the staff room WITH the disabled colleague and both of you were having banter about being disabled then that could be considered a light hearted bit of fun on both sides with no malice.

The first example is clearly unacceptable to anyone with any semblance of intelligence and the second example could be deemed as in bad taste but the recipient of the mocking is present, aware and actively taking part in it. So whilst some would still consider that unacceptable, it's not as black and white as the first example i gave which is.

If it's not clear now it never will be.

merse btpir wrote: 15 Sep 2017, 12:59 We've had a few players go missing just lately......Liam Davies, Josh Gowling, Ryan Clarke, Jordan Lee, Chaney, Kluelesskowski, Old UncleTom Cobley and all....Luke Young even does it in the second half of away matches without getting injured and don't get me started on Jamie Reid!

Just watch the cripples pick up their mats and walk now the new management are here and the haven't got Nanny Nicholson, and his quack doctor Jeffreys there to indulge them.

On a serious note, I hope Clarke Carlisle is OK

lugmeister wrote: 15 Sep 2017, 00:42 May this post be an apology for the timimg of yesterdays post,my intention was to give a frustrated fan base some info . I believe that the fans are the most important people and deserve to be kept in the loop as far as news is concerned. I wish Gary all the best in his new job and hope he can steady the ship and bring Torquay back to the english div 2 the league i believe is there stomping ground. Paul Sturrock p.s. yes my grammer is shocking its because of a miss spent youth lol

United62 wrote: 15 Sep 2017, 08:13 :}


it's called HUMOUR.....

Yorkieandy wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 06:19 Yeah classic bit of disability discrimination there. Aren't there laws about that?

Yorkieandy wrote: 15 Sep 2017, 06:28
Ask yourself if Martin read the post, or any of his immediate family and friends who I'm sure found his illness challenging to deal with read the post or indeed if his mental health team read the post. Do you think they would see humour in it?

It's not humour censorship. It's just having the common decency to not take the piss out of someone who is mentally ill. Pretty obvious really.

MellowYellow wrote: 14 Sep 2017, 23:45 I have a viewpoint on people with disability - their normal. They laugh, many are employed, have kids and even their marriages are successful (or not — just like everyone else). They play sport, like ice-cream and eat hamburgers and believe it or not, those with disabilities do have a sense of humour. They can enjoy a joke, even one aimed at themselves.

When one looks at the content of the post in question I think one can gauge it is meant in a humorous vein and in no way a vindictive one. Like all well-balanced people, those with disabilities can laugh at themselves too. So please let us not treat them differently by trying to subject them to a protective world of humour censorship.

No doubt my viewpoint will stir a hornet's nest, but it is what it is - just a viewpoint.