Torquay United Fans Forum

I seem to recall they mentioned in an early press release that they would hold a fans forum in the New Year.....?

[quote=forevertufc post_id=200208 time=1486320020 user_id=65]
We all know G.I are not here for the love of our club. The point is, if the team continues to slide, be unsuccessful, the club will eventually go bust, If G.I were to charge a rent the club could not afford to pay, it would go bust. [/quote]

Isn't this exactly what happened to Hereford United with either one of G.I's subsidiary companies or some involvement by the elusive Clarke Osborne?

To be fair, I have never said they'd ever build a stadium, just merely pointing out they wouldn't be able charge rent from a club if didn't exist. :)

Didn't stop the demise of Reading Speedway.
Didn't help Bristol Rovers
Didn't help Poole Pirates Speedway
If they've no real intention of building a new ground they won't..............

Rent?

We all know G.I are not here for the love of our club. The point is, if the team continues to slide, be unsuccessful, the club will eventually go bust, If G.I were to charge a rent the club could not afford to pay, it would go bust.

If the club continued to slide down the leagues and gates dropped, how much rent would they get, very little.

If the club went bust, how much rent would they get, none.

As the club is to me, a means to ends in any land deal, what land deal would the get if the club went bust, none.

All G.I would be left with is, a massive bill to clean up the mess, they're business men, who don't like losing money, that's why they're not going actively peruse any of the above, and will do all they can to avoid any of the above happening, that's how you protect an investment.

[quote=Neal post_id=200202 time=1486307203 user_id=342]
They don't need a successful side, as they said, it doesn't matter what league we are in, just a side / club that pays the rent.

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I think it was Dave Phillips who said that GI didn't mind what league we were in, and it was said during last seasons great escape. I had always assumed this was said so as not to put any additional pressure onto Nico or the team.

Anyway if they own the club then they are just paying rent to themselves.

They don't need a successful side, as they said, it doesn't matter what league we are in, just a side / club that pays the rent.

Anyway we shall see :) And I feel confident in returning to this thread in the coming months and reminding you lot what I said!

I agree with Forever, Merse btpir, Brucie, and everybody.. :)

Thank the Lord they didn't seek his "expertise".

[quote=forevertufc post_id=200194 time=1486297686 user_id=65] [i][b]part of the Bristows bench build cost was met with education authority money, the adjoining school as we know has classrooms under the stand.....[/b][/i][/quote]

[b]According to my understanding, the undercroft beneath the stand is still not utilised by the club to it's maximum potential and that is one of the prime aspects of the Gaming International assessment of the situation at the moment..... [/b]

Previous directors have been quizzed as to quite why this is and also just why there was serious discord amongst them at the time of it's commissioning as to exactly how it was designed and constructed with a few significant board members furious that certain aspects were overlooked when they were adamant that they should be included.

Situations such as not re-locating the directors and major sponsors facilities and seating in that stand, freeing up the old space in the Family Stand and therefore providing the opportunity of increasing revenue streams so badly needed.

It might have been a 'fine addition' to the stadium and replacement for the old near to it's end of life span grandstand, but in my view; blandly designed without imagination and little different to the vast array of similar constructions to found on other grounds. The failure to utilise the best views of the action for the benefit of sponsors and other financial backers was stupid in the extreme; but then under the 'leadership' of a chairman of the time who's idea of a matchday was donning a replica shirt and standing on the terraces what do you expect?
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I note that Simon Baker is patently [i]NOT[/i] one of those former directors who's input has been sought in this first month of their ownership and in the circumstances I'm not surprised![/b]

Yes, that's one thing that sprung to my mind as I read down through the thread, there has been no evidence of the deal being ratified by the national league yet, so I guess G.I can only go so far until such a time, their ownership of our club is ratified, if hasn't, as suggested above, then why not ?

I've posted a few times over the last months, no business acquires another to protect it's investment, to then asset strip it and run it in to the ground, to the point they have to close it, it costs money, a lot of money to close a business, that's not how you protect an investment. And whilst I have no inside knowledge, I've always believed this notion they want to build on Plainmoor to be a false one.

As I posted once before, and no one picked up on it, if memory serves my right, part of the Bristows bench build cost was met with education authority money, the adjoining school as we know has classrooms under the stand, any future development of Plainmoor would surely result in Bristows bench having to be left in situ, any development of Plainmoor with out the bench would be small fry, with the bench left intact, by time you add in the legal minimum requirement for parking spaces, no, no it isn't going to happen.

Yes, G.I are after building land, but as, I and others have said in the past, their eyes are on a bigger prize, a prize they will not get if the club went bust.

No leadership off the pitch; a manager out of his depth will only lead to ....more disappointment and bitterness amongst those of us who care.

Not that anyone has been told it hasn't; no

The deal hasn't even be ratified yet by the National league has it??

[quote=Neal post_id=200186 time=1486290009 user_id=342][i][b]I cant see where they have made additional funds available. Blisset went for a fee, Gerring has gone out on loan, reserve goalkeeper gone. And we have what 3 new additions.[/b][/i][/quote]

[b] You're being hysterical because the manager hasn't been successful in getting his targets in; that doesn't mean he hasn't been given the wherewithal to do so. The goalkeeper left of his own volition and his wages were underwritten by the Gibraltarian FA during his stay at Plainmoor.[/b]

We don't know if there is any saving on Gerring's wages or not; what I know is he is patently not good enough to play at this level and his pantomime at Maidstone was the final straw......if he went on a wage saving exercise then that was presumably to accommodate Raccine but GI's football manager brought a player in with a history of knee problems and the result is sadly what happened last week. I would say the responsibility or onus for that mis-firing gamble rests more on the manager than the owners wouldn't you?

You're saying [i]'Blissett went for a fee'[/i] ~ yes he did and that was due to be re-invested in Kieffer Moore and we all know what happened there. There was a tranche of MacDonald money (£50k) due after the GI takeover but the previous board manouvered it forward because they were unable to pay the December wages.

No doubt the manager has another target (well I hope he does) to fill the role he envisaged for Moore and he will have the resources for that from the Moore rejection.

Blissett went three months without scoring before Boxing Day, so he was hardly the missing component we have all been painfully aware of all season was he. There are ambitious young strikers playing a couple of levels below National League that the manager has been made aware of who are surely worth getting in to have a look at; players who would walk the 200 miles to Plainmoor to further their ambitions; who are [b]NOT[/b] academy players and who survive week to week in the cut and thrust and competitiveness of part-time professional football [b]AND[/b] hold down a job they would love to drop given the chance. Sift amongst that sort of shopping list and you might come up with the answer, an answer that is both affordable and 'do-able' because (most importantly) the player actually wants the opportunity offered to him. But the manager won't do that if he is squirreled away down in Torquay every afternoon picking his kids up from school will he. Getting in the car, travelling to other parts of the country and actually fining out for himself might do the trick!
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I'm neither fool enough to think GI are altruistic or sugar daddies; but I am realistic enough to reckon that they will not want any business under their umbrella to run into the ground which will be at great cost to themselves.[/b]