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WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by Tired Old Gull » 24 Dec 2016, 17:03

hector wrote:I've come to the conclusion that I think it must be because David Thomas is not a journalist. He is a reporter. He purely reports on what he sees and what he is told, whereas a journalist would be investigating and asking questions. I suspect in the cosy world of local sports reportage, it makes it far more comfortable not to probe.

Think back to TUST and the 'lawnmower-gate' comments. If he'd bothered to ask at the time, he would have known that they were very different to a Supporters Club, yet that he is how he reported them.

But - as ever - DT always gives the club an easy ride.
That hits the David Thomas nail on the head Hector - he is not a investigative journalist but just a reporter. If it involves doing a bit of prying then it is a "no-no" for him.
Sadly nobody on the sports team at the HE is able to do any investigational work now ... not Thomas, Hughes or Henderson.
As to speaking to him face to face - well I've done that many a time and got nowhere .. he is very much a TUFC man and reports on what he knows they want to hear!

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by ROADRUNNER » 24 Dec 2016, 16:25

Best thing guys is to talk to Dave direct , he can be easily contacted through the herald, he can then tell you then how he does things , i tell you now he gets as fustrated as anyone with what goes on and what he is told, maybe speak to him face to face.

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by hector » 24 Dec 2016, 01:19

I've come to the conclusion that I think it must be because David Thomas is not a journalist. He is a reporter. He purely reports on what he sees and what he is told, whereas a journalist would be investigating and asking questions. I suspect in the cosy world of local sports reportage, it makes it far more comfortable not to probe.

Think back to TUST and the 'lawnmower-gate' comments. If he'd bothered to ask at the time, he would have known that they were very different to a Supporters Club, yet that he is how he reported them.

But - as ever - DT always gives the club an easy ride.

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by tomogull » 23 Dec 2016, 15:56

ROADRUNNER wrote:dave thomas reports on what he told, i can assure you he doesnt sit in their pocket, if they choose not to tell him something then thats down to the board, he has been as fustrated as anyone with these events.
If correct Roadrunner, why won't he publish the REASONS why fans are not jumping and skipping with joy at the news of the GI Takeover? Why won't he print the darkside of GI's previous ventures with Sports Clubs? After all, it's all in the public domain as Dawlish Warren brilliantly set out about six months ago in a thread titled Gaming International Files (or something similar). No - I think if there's a fence, Dave Thomas will sit on it. :-/

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by ROADRUNNER » 21 Dec 2016, 10:51

dave thomas reports on what he told, i can assure you he doesnt sit in their pocket, if they choose not to tell him something then thats down to the board, he has been as fustrated as anyone with these events.

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by gateman49 » 20 Dec 2016, 10:37

The press sit out in the open

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by Tired Old Gull » 20 Dec 2016, 08:33

Mr Thomas has been in the 'pocket' of TUFC for a good few years now, back to the dire CR era at least.
He will rarely report anything derogatory about the Club/Directors as it may affect his free entry to the warm Press Box.

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by Ausgull » 20 Dec 2016, 08:27

Well I don't know about you guys but what ever happened to the investigative Journalism that Dave Thomas and the Herald Express should report on about our club , I can only see what is printed as what is given by the club when they ( Herald Express and Dave Thomas in particular ) should be asking the hard question like why did the club borrow $120k from GI and what were the conditions of the loan?
Their are so many unanswered questions that if I was a journalist Id be knocking on the clubs door trying to get to the truth,the fans(us) are so much in the dark here and the way we have been treated to any information of the going on's at the club has been disgraceful all season.
It is our club and the Herald Express which represents Torquay United on behalf of the fans should be doing their utmost to get to the bottom of any story and try and obtain the truth and not rely on hearsay as I cant imagine not having my club (Torquay United ) to support if the actions of GI and Masters are only for the benefit of themselves .

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by SenorDingDong » 27 Oct 2016, 20:20

If you think there are no young aspiring sports journalists out there that wouldn't bite off their own arm to be given the chance to be the main football writer for a professional football team then you're solely mistaken. Those kind of opportunities are very hard to come by, especially in this era of declining print newspapers and are an excellent way of working towards national sports publications. The HE does not employ people based upon whether they support the club and are 'willing' to cover the team, they employ the most qualified person, of which there would be a good deal of people interested, a large majority probably not Torquay fans and a large majority that might actually make more of an effort to be a real journalist and not just a match reporter.

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by happytorq » 24 Oct 2016, 16:13

it's part of a problem with a club that such a small level of support. Few people interested means fewer people willing to cover the team. It's basically just Dave Thomas at this stage. If he was to go all gung-ho about the shenanigans at the club, they could easily pull something and tell him he's no longer welcome. There aren't thousands of journalists waiting to take his place, so little would be done about it.

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by Absolutelythirdrate » 23 Oct 2016, 07:06

I agree with those who believe DT is just coasting along, happy for an easy ride. A proper journalist would have made a much stronger effort to find out exactly what's going on behind the scenes at our club. In other words, carry out some investigative journalism. It's a pity that he hasn't done this.

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by midtable » 22 Oct 2016, 23:40

An excellent journalist who is still doing as good job. At Torquay's level there is little point in shredding players for lack of skill because we are non-league so what do you expect? If you want to hear a more detailed analysis listen to the Herald Express podcast where the crew have stronger opinions about the players and tactics.

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by hector » 22 Oct 2016, 08:24

gullpower wrote: I agree with much of what you say.

However I would argue that it is not DT's job at the HE these days to be an investigative journalist, so it's not surprising that all you get is scores, commentary on passages of play and who he has bumped into at the training ground. Much more worthwhile investigation has been written on the forums and these days that's where I would expect to find it.
I don't think DT was ever an investigative journalist. Too happy maintaining a cosy relationship with the club and avoiding any controversy. Think back to Paul Cox's appointment and it is DT asking questions about a role for KN. At that point the club were saying he wasn't ready for a player-assistant manager role. A month later? He's the manager.

DT didn't question that, of course.

WILL THE REAL DAVE THOMAS PLEASE STAND UP

by SenorDingDong » 21 Oct 2016, 17:22

gullpower wrote:On the other hand, would Dave Thomas be "Access all Areas" if he was spilling the beans and scattering those skeleton's bones all over the back page?

Sometimes it's up to us to read between the lines. Wasn't it Dave Thomas that alluded to the fact that the club had 2 outstanding debts that would have to be paid in the near future? And wasn't it contributors to this site that first suggested that they were the loan made by GI and losses attributed to Yellow Fest 2?
What are the club going to do? Go all Newcastle United and ban the Herald from reporting on the club? I highly doubt it given that other than the club's website the Herald Express is the only outlet for publicising the club and the only media organisation that plays any attention to the club these days, other than the BBC providing results.

As for the change in the Herald's format and the declining quality of the Herald, I fail to see how this is an issue. Dave still gets his 3/4 pages a week, if he wanted to report something controversial or criticise the ownership then he could do that in those pages, that's plenty of room to do match reports and also make critical commentary. However he seems much happier to continue bumbling along delusionally ignoring all that is happening and letting the fan base down in not using his privleged position to hold the ownership to account.

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