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Manage or Play?

by davidcaldwell123 » 04 Mar 2016, 16:41

Both fullbacks are decent players and I would be very surprised if Kevin will pick himself, I said ages ago its a challenge to do both jobs and he made the right decision and the results have supported this. Still a long journey, you tend to find with football, "just as you think you have cracked it", "you get kicked in the teeth" !

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by tomogull » 04 Mar 2016, 14:30

forevertufc wrote:Wonder what happened at Bognor then, cough, cough. None of the ejected dross played, some of the new signings did play, and urm so did Nicho :)
Ah yes ..... well .... er, um. Or as a politician would say "That's a good point". On the other hand, Nicho played in the side that beat Forest Green 4 - 1 ...... ;-)

But seriously - (a) Philgull puts it prescisely and (b) Nicho won't pick himself tomorrow.

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by PhilGull » 04 Mar 2016, 11:59

Why is this even a question? He was playing himself out of neccesity, now he has recruited the players he needs to play a proper balanced system he no longers needs to play.

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by Dave » 03 Mar 2016, 23:13

Wonder what happened at Bognor then, cough, cough. None of the ejected dross played, some of the new signings did play, and urm so did Nicho :)

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by midtable » 03 Mar 2016, 21:33

Nico's standard tactic is to stick with the same team if they get a positive result. So assuming there are no injuries it will be the same players who took on Macclesfield.

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by tomogull » 03 Mar 2016, 21:24

Southampton Gull wrote:
Or you could say 2 wins from 16 games playing alongside another managers players, as a manager of his own players he's 3 from 3 ;-)
"There are lies, damned lies and statistics". Yes - I think it's more a case of the players that Nicho has brought in and some of the dross ejected rather than whether or not he played himself.

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by Dazza » 03 Mar 2016, 19:31

Sorry not so keen on this thread Dave. We have won some games and the Manager has shown some metal. Don't feel at this stage we should attributing thoughts to the guy that may have not even have entered his head.

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by Southampton Gull » 03 Mar 2016, 16:40

forevertufc wrote:

As a player manager 2 wins from 16, as a manager 3 wins from 3, kind of speaks for itself.

Or you could say 2 wins from 16 games playing alongside another managers players, as a manager of his own players he's 3 from 3 ;-)

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by torq2u » 03 Mar 2016, 15:22

Apart from all that, Kev is too professional to play himself unless absolutely necessary.

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by Dave » 03 Mar 2016, 14:57

Agreed with the above sentiment, fears that Nicho might play himself in some sort of ego trip are totally unfounded in my view, as others have said though, injuries and suspensions may force it at some point in time.

As for what Nicho should do, bleeding obvious, his inclusion in the team was causing a lot more problems that it was solving, if I had £1 for every time Nathan Smith was being pulled out of position to cover his left back would be quite well off now, which in turn was causing a problem across with MacDonald and Berry.

It's come as no surprise to me, and I don't think it's much of a coincidence either that since Nicho has taken himself out, all of a sudden MacDonald/Smith partnership looks solid, and the team have only conceded 1 goal in those three games.

As a player manager 2 wins from 16, as a manager 3 wins from 3, kind of speaks for itself.

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by DevonYellow » 03 Mar 2016, 14:39

Kit_robin wrote:Unless two of our midfielders are injured, why on earth would he play? What an odd thread.

Totally agree.

He's given no indication he might change the side and he's not so self centered to change a winning team to satisfy some personal point scoring. He deserves more credit than that.

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by northlondongull » 03 Mar 2016, 14:03

Richinns wrote:I think it is worth noting that since Nicho added the experience of Harrad, Blissett and Racchi he may of felt he added enough experience on the pitch that he did no longer have to put himself on the field.
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Gulliball wrote:That's not true is it. We were getting battered 7-3 before he arrived and have improved massively since the under-performing players departed and a whole new much improved midfield and strikeforce arrived (which has allowed Butler to return to left back without lowering the quality in midfield). We've performed a lot better recently simply as a result of having a much better side.

If you look at team selections then it's pretty clear that Nicholson doesn't rate himself as better than Butler at left back, but Butler previously had to play on the wing because we had no quality on the wings before Ajala and Allan arrived (or Racchi and Rees if we're playing a diamond currently) and don't have any other left backs at the club because Cox signed players for his three at the back formation. Now that Nicholson has shipped out that rubbish and given the squad more balance and quality, he doesn't need to play himself every week.

With 8 games in 28 days he may play the odd game if injuries, suspensions or fitness issues arise, but I think his transfer and selection policies over the last month tell you what his current plans are, and it doesn't involve him at left back on a regular basis.
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by tomogull » 03 Mar 2016, 13:56

Gulliball wrote:That's not true is it. We were getting battered 7-3 before he arrived and have improved massively since the under-performing players departed and a whole new much improved midfield and strikeforce arrived (which has allowed Butler to return to left back without lowering the quality in midfield). We've performed a lot better recently simply as a result of having a much better side.

If you look at team selections then it's pretty clear that Nicholson doesn't rate himself as better than Butler at left back, but Butler previously had to play on the wing because we had no quality on the wings before Ajala and Allan arrived (or Racchi and Rees if we're playing a diamond currently) and don't have any other left backs at the club because Cox signed players for his three at the back formation. Now that Nicholson has shipped out that rubbish and given the squad more balance and quality, he doesn't need to play himself every week.

With 8 games in 28 days he may play the odd game if injuries, suspensions or fitness issues arise, but I think his transfer and selection policies over the last month tell you what his current plans are, and it doesn't involve him at left back on a regular basis.
Good post, Gulliball. I shall be very surprised if Nicho puts himself in the side on Saturday. As you say, the arrival of Racci, Rees, Ajala, plus Verma, means that Dan Butler can revert to his more familiar left back position. In my opinion, there was no criticism of Kev picking himself and playing Butler in midfield when it was glaringly obvious that we were being overun in midfield week after week. I'm sure this has been the main reason why we have struggled all season ...... until now.

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by Richinns » 03 Mar 2016, 13:37

I think it is worth noting that since Nicho added the experience of Harrad, Blissett and Racchi he may of felt he added enough experience on the pitch that he did no longer have to put himself on the field.

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by Gulliball » 03 Mar 2016, 13:35

That's not true is it. We were getting battered 7-3 before he arrived and have improved massively since the under-performing players departed and a whole new much improved midfield and strikeforce arrived (which has allowed Butler to return to left back without lowering the quality in midfield). We've performed a lot better recently simply as a result of having a much better side.

If you look at team selections then it's pretty clear that Nicholson doesn't rate himself as better than Butler at left back, but Butler previously had to play on the wing because we had no quality on the wings before Ajala and Allan arrived (or Racchi and Rees if we're playing a diamond currently) and don't have any other left backs at the club because Cox signed players for his three at the back formation. Now that Nicholson has shipped out that rubbish and given the squad more balance and quality, he doesn't need to play himself every week.

With 8 games in 28 days he may play the odd game if injuries, suspensions or fitness issues arise, but I think his transfer and selection policies over the last month tell you what his current plans are, and it doesn't involve him at left back on a regular basis.

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