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[quote="wivelgull"]'We have used 29 players this season'. If ever there was a statement of doom, this is it. If you look at TUFC statistics (or statistics of any club for that matter) you'll see that in their worst season they've used umpteen players, while in good (or even successful) seasons they used very few. That is always the key statistic in any team's progress (or lack of it) over a season. Check up for yourselves and see if I'm right.
Another thing: you never know until later when the point of no return has been passed. So I ask you: has the point of no return (regarding relegation) been passed already? I would say that it has. It's all in the stats. I'm afraid.[/quote]

Yes, you're right Wivel. But I see it more of a clearing out of dead wood to bring in more experienced (hopefully) players that will support the youngsters in the side to be more equipped for the battles ahead. The team has definitely been showing more steel and determination sicnce the Chester debacle. I don't think we have passed the point of no return yet. As others have posted, January is going to be an important month. Good away win for Whitby yesterday by the way - they can also avoid the drop in their league.

Using 29 players: on the other hand, it shows our strength in depth of squad =D =D

'We have used 29 players this season'. If ever there was a statement of doom, this is it. If you look at TUFC statistics (or statistics of any club for that matter) you'll see that in their worst season they've used umpteen players, while in good (or even successful) seasons they used very few. That is always the key statistic in any team's progress (or lack of it) over a season. Check up for yourselves and see if I'm right.
Another thing: you never know until later when the point of no return has been passed. So I ask you: has the point of no return (regarding relegation) been passed already? I would say that it has. It's all in the stats. I'm afraid.

I never saw the best of Hesflop in midfield.

He seemed to do better at right back. If only he'd been RB for the Chelts match, he wouldn't have been there to blast over - Berry would have had that cert goal .

Anyway, now he's in an even better position for us - right off :lol:

[quote="tomogull"]I've been very critical of Heslop for most of the season but the last three or four games, apart from the glaring miss at Cheltenham, he has played well and worked hard for the team [/quote]

That's the problem, he's had five months to play well and probably only started trying once he learned of a potential move away.

Waste of space in my opinion, Wrexham are welcome to him.

It is somewhat ironic that under Cox, when we had a glut of midfielders, we tended to miss out midfield with lofted hopeful balls, but now that we try to play more real football we are becoming short of midfielders....where does that leave our tactics for the rest of the season and our need for 10 wins?

Seems like Wrexham are in freefall having lost again today. Looks as if they'll be changing manager again!

[quote="TT78"]Just signed for us.[/quote]

Good luck with him. Get yourself ready for lots of sideways passes - not all of which will find their intended target

I've been very critical of Heslop for most of the season but the last three or four games, apart from the glaring miss at Cheltenham, he has played well and worked hard for the team so I am sorry to see him go. With so many players leaving, it will be interesting to see who Nicholson brings in. Perhaps the scouts have been out scouring the South Devon league ......

No doubt his 'illness' is now a lot better. No wonder we are were we are with players of the attitude of Heslop and Hurst. They have used us like a public convenience.

Signed for wrexham

Just signed for us.

A pity he has gone because he must have built up a good understanding with the other players as he has been here since the beginning of the season. We have used 29 players and now more will arrive but hopefully they will gel together quickly. I am sure Heslop was not on much money so you can't blame him for taking a pay rise elsewhere if we won't match it. I assume the biggest earners are Luke Young and Waide Fairhurst but sadly as both are injured we remain in a mess.

Simon Heslop"s short term contract is about to end and presumably we didn't want to extend it because we wanted to free up whatever we were paying him to go towards new signings. Non league footballers are generally on short term contracts and if another Club is after him he would have wanted to avoid injury today so as not to scupper his chances of getting a job elsewhere. I don't blame him if he didn't want to play today.
We have already got Richards and Verma as our regular central midfielders so Heslop would only be used as a sub most of the time if he stayed but there are probably more versatile options out there.

I was never impressed by Heslop during his time here. Sadly, we have no knowledge of who earns what so whether he was ripping us off or whether he was playing for peanuts, if he has to leave, so be it.

Recent results over Christmas have been promising but, at the moment, I think we should all just hope there is a team to support next season.