by tomogull » 03 Oct 2014, 11:23
MidDevon wrote:One of the problems is that people are posting on this forum without sufficient knowledge of the rules of the game and not sufficient evidence to say if a player should have been booked or sent off.
I have not commented on the Forest Green Rovers yellow or red cards as I was not at the match and cannot make a decision based on a few minutes highlights alone. I was there on Saturday and therefore did post my views as I could see clearly why Ajala got his second booking and so could comment.
One of the major problems with some of this season's players is that they just commit too many fouls
"Persistent infringement on the Laws of the Game" is a justified reason for booking a player and that was certainly the case with Ajala on Saturday. You often see a referee point to the parts of the pitch where previous fouls were committed to justify his decision to the player being booked.
Those who watch Match of The Day will see the experts comment on referees carding decisions and it is normally only Lee Dixon who has a more objective view as appose to just going over and over the "last" foul, so this does not help.
By all means comment, that is what a forum is for, but please understand the rules of the game as everything is not as black and white as many posters on here would like to believe.
Good post middevon. I have every sympathy with refs doing a thankless job as the game is played at a faster pace than ever before and there is so much more play-acting going on (I've even seen it on occasions during Sunday morning youth team games) and shirt tugging which seems to escape the notice of refs and assistants.
My gripe is that refs don't help themselves sometimes. As Forever quite rightly posted, some of them don't apply common sense. Take Richards sending off. I take your point about 'persistent infringement' and in fact a foul had been given against him shortly before the sending off which caused the radio commentator to say 'he needs to be careful'. But looking at that video clip, many refs wouldn't have given a foul, if indeed it was a foul. Both players were challenging for the ball and the FGR player got there a split second, and it was just a split second, before Richards. That challenge did not deserve a second yellow card leading to his sending off. If you look at the reaction of the FGR players in the clip, even they look gobsmacked by the decision. Now, compare that with the physical assault by the Northampton player, Ravenshill, on Bodin last season which has threatened Bodin's career - neither the ref nor his assistant considered that a foul. There is a lack of consistency which affects all teams, not just us. I shall be closely watching Wrexham tomorrow as they have had no yellow or red cards so far this season. That's some achievement in this league of card flashing refs.
[quote="MidDevon"]One of the problems is that people are posting on this forum without sufficient knowledge of the rules of the game and not sufficient evidence to say if a player should have been booked or sent off.
I have not commented on the Forest Green Rovers yellow or red cards as I was not at the match and cannot make a decision based on a few minutes highlights alone. I was there on Saturday and therefore did post my views as I could see clearly why Ajala got his second booking and so could comment.
One of the major problems with some of this season's players is that they just commit too many fouls
"Persistent infringement on the Laws of the Game" is a justified reason for booking a player and that was certainly the case with Ajala on Saturday. You often see a referee point to the parts of the pitch where previous fouls were committed to justify his decision to the player being booked.
Those who watch Match of The Day will see the experts comment on referees carding decisions and it is normally only Lee Dixon who has a more objective view as appose to just going over and over the "last" foul, so this does not help.
By all means comment, that is what a forum is for, but please understand the rules of the game as everything is not as black and white as many posters on here would like to believe.[/quote]
Good post middevon. I have every sympathy with refs doing a thankless job as the game is played at a faster pace than ever before and there is so much more play-acting going on (I've even seen it on occasions during Sunday morning youth team games) and shirt tugging which seems to escape the notice of refs and assistants.
My gripe is that refs don't help themselves sometimes. As Forever quite rightly posted, some of them don't apply common sense. Take Richards sending off. I take your point about 'persistent infringement' and in fact a foul had been given against him shortly before the sending off which caused the radio commentator to say 'he needs to be careful'. But looking at that video clip, many refs wouldn't have given a foul, if indeed it was a foul. Both players were challenging for the ball and the FGR player got there a split second, and it was just a split second, before Richards. That challenge did not deserve a second yellow card leading to his sending off. If you look at the reaction of the FGR players in the clip, even they look gobsmacked by the decision. Now, compare that with the physical assault by the Northampton player, Ravenshill, on Bodin last season which has threatened Bodin's career - neither the ref nor his assistant considered that a foul. There is a lack of consistency which affects all teams, not just us. I shall be closely watching Wrexham tomorrow as they have had no yellow or red cards so far this season. That's some achievement in this league of card flashing refs.
