by leetufc » 18 Jun 2014, 06:54
Neal wrote:I can't believe some of these posts. So we now pick a team based on players families, how many kids they've got, how much there mortgage is. no no no that is a recipe for disaster. Torquay fans and management are now a social service. In sport and particular professional sport its ruthless, and I'm afraid these guys chose this as a profession. Go and sell herbs if you don't like it. We as a club need a squad next year who are all pulling in the same and right direction, AND.... are on money they deserve NOT need. Plus.... I don't want players here who have chosen Torquay as a last resort, oh their gonna be well up for a tough season where there will be many tough away days..... NOT. I would rather have a young energetic, motivated and keen player on average conference wages.
This is sport, competition and its a tough business. We need to have sorted these contracts out now, no extensions, unbelievable, what does that say to the players NOT offered extensions, it tell them we don't want you as much.
Its been stated on here, and I don't know if its true but after relegation the players in question have a 20% reduction. Mmmmmm....... That I would guess means that the out of contract players would have at least been reduced by that amount, I would hope much much more.
I think you have missed the point of the posts above. Nobody has said we should be offering Poke X amount per week because he has a family and mortgage, rather that he should be allowed a couple of weeks to choose whether to accept a drop in wages, or seek employment elsewhere.
These guys aren't Premiership footballers having to make the decision between 50k and 60k per week, most of these guys are likely on between 20k - 50k per year. And given the career span, you would expect they would want to earn as much they can before they retire.
They still have to think about themselves, however much they love the club. They are very fortunate to be able to play football as a career, but at this level it's not just about the love of the game, they still have to earn enough money to support themselves. I have made a similar point regarding Lee Mansell on another thread.
If most people were faced with a 40% reduction or more in their wages, they wouldn't make the decision in a couple of days. If it were me I would be looking at others jobs that I could earn what I felt I deserved and was worth, which is no doubt what Poke, Lathrope and Mansell are doing.
As much as I love the club and want the players to feel that same emotion for it to, I am pragmatic and realise that to most of these guys it's a career paying the bills. I am sure that some players will get emotionally connected to clubs they play for, but I don't expect any player at this level to forego a living wage or the chance of much better wages elsewhere just because he has an affinity to Torquay.
Unfortunately that's the situation with football in the modern world.
[quote="Neal"]I can't believe some of these posts. So we now pick a team based on players families, how many kids they've got, how much there mortgage is. no no no that is a recipe for disaster. Torquay fans and management are now a social service. In sport and particular professional sport its ruthless, and I'm afraid these guys chose this as a profession. Go and sell herbs if you don't like it. We as a club need a squad next year who are all pulling in the same and right direction, AND.... are on money they deserve NOT need. Plus.... I don't want players here who have chosen Torquay as a last resort, oh their gonna be well up for a tough season where there will be many tough away days..... NOT. I would rather have a young energetic, motivated and keen player on average conference wages.
This is sport, competition and its a tough business. We need to have sorted these contracts out now, no extensions, unbelievable, what does that say to the players NOT offered extensions, it tell them we don't want you as much.
Its been stated on here, and I don't know if its true but after relegation the players in question have a 20% reduction. Mmmmmm....... That I would guess means that the out of contract players would have at least been reduced by that amount, I would hope much much more.[/quote]
I think you have missed the point of the posts above. Nobody has said we should be offering Poke X amount per week because he has a family and mortgage, rather that he should be allowed a couple of weeks to choose whether to accept a drop in wages, or seek employment elsewhere.
These guys aren't Premiership footballers having to make the decision between 50k and 60k per week, most of these guys are likely on between 20k - 50k per year. And given the career span, you would expect they would want to earn as much they can before they retire.
They still have to think about themselves, however much they love the club. They are very fortunate to be able to play football as a career, but at this level it's not just about the love of the game, they still have to earn enough money to support themselves. I have made a similar point regarding Lee Mansell on another thread.
If most people were faced with a 40% reduction or more in their wages, they wouldn't make the decision in a couple of days. If it were me I would be looking at others jobs that I could earn what I felt I deserved and was worth, which is no doubt what Poke, Lathrope and Mansell are doing.
As much as I love the club and want the players to feel that same emotion for it to, I am pragmatic and realise that to most of these guys it's a career paying the bills. I am sure that some players will get emotionally connected to clubs they play for, but I don't expect any player at this level to forego a living wage or the chance of much better wages elsewhere just because he has an affinity to Torquay.
Unfortunately that's the situation with football in the modern world.
