by ferrarilover » 20 Apr 2014, 20:15
This is brilliant. We live in a nation where it's pretty much the rudest thing you can do to mention money. I daren't even ask my own mother her salary, because it would be such terribly poor form. Yet here we are, on the internet, expecting intimate details of exactly who spends exactly what at the club. It's genius, you couldn't make it up. That absolutely no other business in the world has ever released this sort of information (because it would, presumably, be business suicide) is irrelevant, as soon as Torquay United act in exactly that manner, "the internet" becomes abuzz with people using it as a stick to beat.
As for the "standard of football" we've seen under Hargreaves, I'm afraid some of you have been watching a different team from me. I've watched us dominate entirely almost every minute of every game since Chris arrived. This is markedly different from the approach taken by a number of our other recent managers, who preferred to see us dominated and play on the break or with the long ball. That we've failed to score in a number of matches is a separate issue, but the football we play to create chances for Benyon to squander is a cut above anything I've seen anyone else stick together against us since Hargreaves took over. Now, I'm not saying it's like watching Brasil, but we can only judge ourselves against those around us and, I'm very much afraid, for the last couple of months, we've (by and large) been better than all of them at all bar the one crucial task of sticking it in the onion bag. That's why this relegation hurts so much, because there's no need for us to go down. We're not the worst side in the division, not even close, what we lack is a goalscorer.
And finally, on communication, what is it that we wanted Chris to say different form that which he has said? He said they should have been down to 10 after about 9 seconds and he's right. He's said that there have been big decisions which have gone against us and he's right (the tackle on Bodin against Northants, the failure to dismiss about 6 Dagenham players on Friday, the failure to give a penalty in that game for a very, very clear handball, the failure to spot an equally obvious handball in the Southend game, the criminal decision to dismiss Goodwin, and the same with Stockley and they're just the ones I've thought of in the last 10 seconds). Their manager has said we should have won the match comfortably and he's right. He's been castigated as being "unprofessional", but you tell me what's worse, Chris making his comments after having had 24 hours to reflect, or running to the post-match presser and behaving like Jose Mourinho did after Chelsea's defeat. Both similar matches, both games in which one side hammered the other and the other got extremely lucky. Two totally different reactions. Which one is appearing on the back pages? Which manager is being called a classless **** by basically everyone in the world? Which one has embarrassed himself, his club and his players?
Also, talking about depression isn't really that "brave" is it? Surely, in England in 2014, it's about as brave as a black guy walking down a street in a town in Georgia or a woman turning up at the polls. You don't give a shit if someone's depressed and nor does anyone you know. The odd knuckledragger who does is too busy cashing his Giro and auditioning for Benefits Street to pay any particular attention to an article written by a bloke he's never heard of, published on a website he doesn't use. Nope,I#m afraid that bravery is reserved for firefighters and Royal Marines.
Matt.
This is brilliant. We live in a nation where it's pretty much the rudest thing you can do to mention money. I daren't even ask my own mother her salary, because it would be such terribly poor form. Yet here we are, on the internet, expecting intimate details of exactly who spends exactly what at the club. It's genius, you couldn't make it up. That absolutely no other business in the world has ever released this sort of information (because it would, presumably, be business suicide) is irrelevant, as soon as Torquay United act in exactly that manner, "the internet" becomes abuzz with people using it as a stick to beat.
As for the "standard of football" we've seen under Hargreaves, I'm afraid some of you have been watching a different team from me. I've watched us dominate entirely almost every minute of every game since Chris arrived. This is markedly different from the approach taken by a number of our other recent managers, who preferred to see us dominated and play on the break or with the long ball. That we've failed to score in a number of matches is a separate issue, but the football we play to create chances for Benyon to squander is a cut above anything I've seen anyone else stick together against us since Hargreaves took over. Now, I'm not saying it's like watching Brasil, but we can only judge ourselves against those around us and, I'm very much afraid, for the last couple of months, we've (by and large) been better than all of them at all bar the one crucial task of sticking it in the onion bag. That's why this relegation hurts so much, because there's no need for us to go down. We're not the worst side in the division, not even close, what we lack is a goalscorer.
And finally, on communication, what is it that we wanted Chris to say different form that which he has said? He said they should have been down to 10 after about 9 seconds and he's right. He's said that there have been big decisions which have gone against us and he's right (the tackle on Bodin against Northants, the failure to dismiss about 6 Dagenham players on Friday, the failure to give a penalty in that game for a very, very clear handball, the failure to spot an equally obvious handball in the Southend game, the criminal decision to dismiss Goodwin, and the same with Stockley and they're just the ones I've thought of in the last 10 seconds). Their manager has said we should have won the match comfortably and he's right. He's been castigated as being "unprofessional", but you tell me what's worse, Chris making his comments after having had 24 hours to reflect, or running to the post-match presser and behaving like Jose Mourinho did after Chelsea's defeat. Both similar matches, both games in which one side hammered the other and the other got extremely lucky. Two totally different reactions. Which one is appearing on the back pages? Which manager is being called a classless **** by basically everyone in the world? Which one has embarrassed himself, his club and his players?
Also, talking about depression isn't really that "brave" is it? Surely, in England in 2014, it's about as brave as a black guy walking down a street in a town in Georgia or a woman turning up at the polls. You don't give a shit if someone's depressed and nor does anyone you know. The odd knuckledragger who does is too busy cashing his Giro and auditioning for Benefits Street to pay any particular attention to an article written by a bloke he's never heard of, published on a website he doesn't use. Nope,I#m afraid that bravery is reserved for firefighters and Royal Marines.
Matt.
