Torquay United Fans Forum

supergulls wrote: I know the team for tomorrow as you will know but I never put it up here until after 1.30 which is the time the opposition get the team sheets but early enough before it's put out anywhere else.

ferrarilover wrote:We do aspire, of course we aspire, but we're limited by much more than a lack of aspiration. We're in a division of teams, teams like Burton Albion who can stretch to paying more than we can. We're in a division of players who are "forced" to sign for the highest bidder because they only earn normal money. The difference between £150,000/week and £200,000/week is, essentially, nothing. The difference between £1200/week and £1500/week is massive.
We can't compete with 90% of clubs in L2 in terms of money. Despite you and I knowing differently, we are, in the eyes of the young, mainly pretty stupid, mainly fairly simple men that we're trying to attract, geographically disadvantaged. We are historically challenged, we're not a fashionable club, we have no history, players, agents, friend and family probably think the same as the vast majority of the population, "Torquay United, aren't they a non-league side?"

We have f**k all to offer down here. As a young, black man interested in money, easy birds and nightclubbing, do you move to Bristol Rovers on two grand a week, or Torquay United on eight hundred?
Move to Rovers, you're surrounded by similarly minded individuals, in a place full of bimbos willing to throw themselves at a pro-footballer and you've plenty of cash in your pocket. You can tell your mates you're at Rovers, who are historically a decent and well supported club and one which ordinary people view as a 'big' club.
Contrast this with coming to us, stuck down here in God's waiting room, surrounded by the blue rinse brigade, with one dreadful nightclub and where you'll get laughed at for playing for TUFC, both by the girls and by your mates, who will think we're in the BSS and play pub sides on Sundays down the local rec.

Looking around the division today, it's a miracle that we're still here. Judging from the teams in the Conference, we should be, according to our size, fan base, budget and all those other practical considerations, languishing in the Skrill South. The fact that we aren't is miracle enough for me, without asking for more.
So no, it's not wrong to aspire to greatness or even mediocrity, but given the facts of the situation in which we find ourselves, it's not really wrong for us to be where we are, either.

Matt.

ferrarilover wrote:We do aspire, of course we aspire, but we're limited by much more than a lack of aspiration. We're in a division of teams, teams like Burton Albion who can stretch to paying more than we can. We're in a division of players who are "forced" to sign for the highest bidder because they only earn normal money. The difference between £150,000/week and £200,000/week is, essentially, nothing. The difference between £1200/week and £1500/week is massive.
We can't compete with 90% of clubs in L2 in terms of money. Despite you and I knowing differently, we are, in the eyes of the young, mainly pretty stupid, mainly fairly simple men that we're trying to attract, geographically disadvantaged. We are historically challenged, we're not a fashionable club, we have no history, players, agents, friend and family probably think the same as the vast majority of the population, "Torquay United, aren't they a non-league side?"

We have f**k all to offer down here. As a young, black man interested in money, easy birds and nightclubbing, do you move to Bristol Rovers on two grand a week, or Torquay United on eight hundred?
Move to Rovers, you're surrounded by similarly minded individuals, in a place full of bimbos willing to throw themselves at a pro-footballer and you've plenty of cash in your pocket. You can tell your mates you're at Rovers, who are historically a decent and well supported club and one which ordinary people view as a 'big' club.
Contrast this with coming to us, stuck down here in God's waiting room, surrounded by the blue rinse brigade, with one dreadful nightclub and where you'll get laughed at for playing for TUFC, both by the girls and by your mates, who will think we're in the BSS and play pub sides on Sundays down the local rec.

Looking around the division today, it's a miracle that we're still here. Judging from the teams in the Conference, we should be, according to our size, fan base, budget and all those other practical considerations, languishing in the Skrill South. The fact that we aren't is miracle enough for me, without asking for more.
So no, it's not wrong to aspire to greatness or even mediocrity, but given the facts of the situation in which we find ourselves, it's not really wrong for us to be where we are, either.

Matt.

stefano wrote: A little rude about our manager that and I am sure it is not true. I thought he just looked on this forum a couple of hours before kick off to see what team Supergulls has picked! (as indeed I expect our opponents of the day do as well!)

ferrarilover wrote: It's short termism at its worst and it will end up costing the club more than it makes them, but it's what must be done because of the way the game has gone over the last few years. More and more idiots have louder and louder voices and "fans" of clubs like ours expect to see rousing displays, top of the table clashes and promotions every week. They forget that 99.9% of our existence has been in the division we presently inhabit and that 99.9% of our future will likely be spent here too. They want promotion becvause that's what they think is the minimum aceptable standard, so to be where we normally are (somewhere near the bottom of Division 4) is somehow now a fauilure. Matt.