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Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Gullscorer » 02 Oct 2013, 21:15

ferrarilover wrote:Disagreement with good cause, I like, I enjoy, it's why I come here, because I like arguing the toss. I may be a sad old bastard, but I like batting opinions around to and fro and seeing where we end up. Disagreement and argument based not on the content of the post, but on the poster alone makes my heart sink and my soul weep for the futility of it all. Be true to yourself. If you dissent from my view for plausible reasons, then fine, but if you agree but choose to dissent because you don't like 'ferrarilover', then you really need to ask yourself if you couldn't better use your time doing something constructive.

I have no doubt that, had I posted a damning report on Benyon and stated that I love Callum Ball, that a number among our membership who would otherwise have posted similar would post their opinion as quite the opposite, merely to dissent from my view.

This seems churlish and spiteful. I am not concerned with that. What does perturb me is that these posters are willing to dissent not only from me, but from themselves in order to 'stir the pot'. This, quite apart from being enormously pointless, is one of the saddest things I can imagine. An opinion held for the purpose of contrary is no opinion at all.

Matt.
Matt, you're almost in danger of contradicting yourself there..!! =D

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Gullscorer » 02 Oct 2013, 21:13

gullintwoplaces wrote:Matt, I don't always agree with your comments, but I will say for you that you don't make up evidence to justify what you say. This is to your credit. Some people do this all the time, and I find that unforgiveable.
Evidence please...?? :}

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Glostergull » 02 Oct 2013, 20:53

ferrarilover wrote:Disagreement with good cause, I like, I enjoy, it's why I come here, because I like arguing the toss. I may be a sad old bastard, but I like batting opinions around to and fro and seeing where we end up.
Disagreement and argument based not on the content of the post, but on the poster alone makes my heart sink and my soul weep for the futility of it all. Be true to yourself. If you dissent from my view for plausible reasons, then fine, but if you agree but choose to dissent because you don't like 'ferrarilover', then you really need to ask yourself if you couldn't better use your time doing something constructive.

I have no doubt that, had I posted a damning report on Benyon and stated that I love Callum Ball, that a number among our membership who would otherwise have posted similar would post their opinion as quite the opposite, merely to dissent from my view.

This seems churlish and spiteful. I am not concerned with that. What does perturb me is that these posters are willing to dissent not only from me, but from themselves in order to 'stir the pot'. This, quite apart from being enormously pointless, is one of the saddest things I can imagine. An opinion held for the purpose of contrary is no opinion at all.

Matt.
Nah. Yer Just a sad ole Ba***rd. welcome to the gang! :lol:

Won't be long before you enroll in full membership and become senile like the rest of us!!! :rules:

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by wodger of awabia » 02 Oct 2013, 14:04

ferrarilover wrote:There are a frightening number of people here with nothing better to do than swipe (ineffectively) at everything I write. Could you not dedicate your efforts and time instead to charity work or writing a novel?

Yes, it's my opinion and yes people will disagree. In other news, the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic and a bear has been spotted sh*tting in the woods.

Matt.
Well I suppose we will have to let you get away with that one, but to be absolutely correct you should write Roman Catholic. :na:

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by ferrarilover » 02 Oct 2013, 09:26

Disagreement with good cause, I like, I enjoy, it's why I come here, because I like arguing the toss. I may be a sad old bastard, but I like batting opinions around to and fro and seeing where we end up.
Disagreement and argument based not on the content of the post, but on the poster alone makes my heart sink and my soul weep for the futility of it all. Be true to yourself. If you dissent from my view for plausible reasons, then fine, but if you agree but choose to dissent because you don't like 'ferrarilover', then you really need to ask yourself if you couldn't better use your time doing something constructive.

I have no doubt that, had I posted a damning report on Benyon and stated that I love Callum Ball, that a number among our membership who would otherwise have posted similar would post their opinion as quite the opposite, merely to dissent from my view.

This seems churlish and spiteful. I am not concerned with that. What does perturb me is that these posters are willing to dissent not only from me, but from themselves in order to 'stir the pot'. This, quite apart from being enormously pointless, is one of the saddest things I can imagine. An opinion held for the purpose of contrary is no opinion at all.

Matt.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by gullintwoplaces » 02 Oct 2013, 08:45

ferrarilover wrote:There are a frightening number of people here with nothing better to do than swipe (ineffectively) at everything I write. Could you not dedicate your efforts and time instead to charity work or writing a novel?

Yes, it's my opinion and yes people will disagree. In other news, the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic and a bear has been spotted sh*tting in the woods.

Matt.
Matt, I don't always agree with your comments, but I will say for you that you don't make up evidence to justify what you say. This is to your credit. Some people do this all the time, and I find that unforgiveable.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Dave » 02 Oct 2013, 08:34

ferrarilover wrote:There are a frightening number of people here with nothing better to do than swipe (ineffectively) at everything I write. Could you not dedicate your efforts and time instead to charity work or writing a novel?

Yes, it's my opinion and yes people will disagree. In other news, the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic and a bear has been spotted sh*tting in the woods.

Matt.
Matt, I am going to remove your hat, this time your not getting it back.. :) I did try to leave you alone, sorry , was to boring.. :)

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by ferrarilover » 02 Oct 2013, 08:27

There are a frightening number of people here with nothing better to do than swipe (ineffectively) at everything I write. Could you not dedicate your efforts and time instead to charity work or writing a novel?

Yes, it's my opinion and yes people will disagree. In other news, the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic and a bear has been spotted sh*tting in the woods.

Matt.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by hector » 02 Oct 2013, 07:14

ferrarilover wrote:I promise I'm not doing this just to repay the favour from the Callum Ball thread, but Tezza is quite fair on this occasion.

On paper, yes, this lad is a decent signing. However, none of us really knows a thing about him. The Burton link is tenuous, given that he played a different role there and Callum Ball is indeed testament to a decent upbringing not necessarily translating into success at L2 level.

I'm sure he'll be fine and that there's no need to worry about him (quite separate from the need to continue to worry generally), but let's not make the collective error of taking the champagne off ice just yet.

Matt.
That though is your opinion. I would disagree with that and so would many others, including the manager you think so highly of.

Furthermore, many argue for the inclusion of the lightweight and slow, Elliot Benyon as an alternative but again, as a starter he is ineffective, and in many people's opinion he is over-rated.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Dutchgull » 01 Oct 2013, 22:58

Have to agree with you again Forever !

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by Dave » 01 Oct 2013, 22:48

ferrarilover wrote:I promise I'm not doing this just to repay the favour from the Callum Ball thread, but Tezza is quite fair on this occasion.

On paper, yes, this lad is a decent signing. However, none of us really knows a thing about him. The Burton link is tenuous, given that he played a different role there and Callum Ball is indeed testament to a decent upbringing not necessarily translating into success at L2 level.

I'm sure he'll be fine and that there's no need to worry about him (quite separate from the need to continue to worry generally), but let's not make the collective error of taking the champagne off ice just yet.

Matt.
Oh Matt, Brucie at best has probably only seen Callum Ball play once if at all, and just because you and some other fans think Callum Ball hasn't been a succsess in League 2 doesn't mean thats fact and he isn't going to be.

Alan Knill's opinions are those of a experienced and quailfied professional football manager, he trusts Callum Ball to do a job for us, and believes Anthony O'Connor can do the same, I know who's opinion I trust.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by ferrarilover » 01 Oct 2013, 22:26

I promise I'm not doing this just to repay the favour from the Callum Ball thread, but Tezza is quite fair on this occasion.

On paper, yes, this lad is a decent signing. However, none of us really knows a thing about him. The Burton link is tenuous, given that he played a different role there and Callum Ball is indeed testament to a decent upbringing not necessarily translating into success at L2 level.

I'm sure he'll be fine and that there's no need to worry about him (quite separate from the need to continue to worry generally), but let's not make the collective error of taking the champagne off ice just yet.

Matt.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by brucie » 01 Oct 2013, 21:30

The only downside for me is that if the Burton manager thought he was so good why didn't he play him in his preferred position of centre half.
All his games for Burton were in a position that we won't be playing him in. I appreciate that he may have played at centre half for Blackburn reserves but that probably won't equate to playing centre half in league 2.
I wouldn't say that right back is such a key position as centre half. As Callum Ball has found out being a championship reserve player doesn't automaticaly equate to being a success as a league 2 player.
As such O'Connor to me is still inexperienced playing in a key position in the team so there are still question marks.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by hector » 01 Oct 2013, 19:29

This looks a decent signing after reading the link to the Burton paper - sort of irony that the picture shows him playing against Torquay - well, Danny Stevens anyway.

Re: Anthony O'Connor

by SBP » 01 Oct 2013, 18:58

Considering we lost Downsey to injury last Thursday, I am more than happy with AK bringing this lad in so quickly into the squad ready for Saturday.
I cant believe the criticism that AK is coming under from some on this forum. At the start of the season some Arsenal fans wanted Wenger out! I bet they are not asking for that now!
Three or four victories puts us in a very different place.
We are not a bad team without potential, it will take time. We do not have pots of cash to splash out. AK will make mistakes, we all do.
As long as we make steady progress, then I am happy.

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