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Re: Downes injured

by gullintwoplaces » 04 Oct 2013, 11:19

SuperNickyWroe wrote:Having surgery on Monday.

Bugger.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24398405
Bad news indeed. For me he has been far and away our best and most consistent player, this season and last season too.

Re: Downes injured

by SuperNickyWroe » 04 Oct 2013, 10:55

Having surgery on Monday.

Bugger.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24398405

Re: Downes injured

by Rjc70 » 01 Oct 2013, 09:21

Cheers, BTG.

Re: Downes injured

by Behind-the-Gulls » 30 Sep 2013, 12:15

Rjc70 wrote:Cheers for that line up re earlier post AAG. Not one I'd like to see, but it's all about opinions. Understand re Azeez. Given that the only two 'preferred X1's' I've read since yesterday have Downes in them, though, it's clear we need to act quick. What is the injury Mozika was recovering from, anyone know?
Torn hamstring.

Re: Downes injured

by Rjc70 » 30 Sep 2013, 11:56

Cheers for that line up re earlier post AAG. Not one I'd like to see, but it's all about opinions. Understand re Azeez. Given that the only two 'preferred X1's' I've read since yesterday have Downes in them, though, it's clear we need to act quick. What is the injury Mozika was recovering from, anyone know?

Re: Downes injured

by ferrarilover » 29 Sep 2013, 23:43

Hahaha, I'll give our girls this Tomo, they are, in the main, a fine looking bunch.

*awaits replies from nutters decrying me a sexist pig*

Matt.

Re: Downes injured

by tomogull » 29 Sep 2013, 23:13

ferrarilover wrote: I watch the women when I can, and, with the greatest respect to them, if you want to see what happens when a football team plays with almost no shape, come and have a look.

Matt.
Well, Matt ..... from what I've seen of Women's football, the shape's alright, mate. Oops ! Sexist remark ...... delete, delete :clap:

Re: Downes injured

by yellowforever » 29 Sep 2013, 21:58

ferrarilover wrote:Sorry YF, it's not clear, but I was agreeing with you.

Matt.
Oh shoot sorry Matt. I wasn't sure myself exactly whether you did or not, as I've seen previous posts by you making similar noises to mine. I probably took an idea and ran with it too far, but it's a thought to entertain at least.

Re: Downes injured

by yellowforever » 29 Sep 2013, 21:56

You raise a good point there. It'll never happen, but is Lathrope a genuine option instead of Mansell? His passion is wonderful, but a while he's following the ball up pitch, he does seem to get caught out of position far more than a player of his ilk (a midfield 'tackler') should. The line of argument against Craig is that he can't tackle, but as I said earlier in my 'herculean' post, good positioning is just as important, if not even more so. If this assumption I am making is correct (it by no means is, it's a theory), where does that leave Mansell? He neither offers ability on the ball, nor demonstrates the discipline to stay in shape as the team 'tackler'.

Just a thought.

On the subject of strikers, if we play with one, Hawley will get the nod from me. I mentioned this in my earlier post, but although Ball has the perfect physical attributes to it, I don't get the impression he offers enough on the ball, nor is a natural finisher.

There's no way we'll get the complete forward in League 2, they are damn well rare at the highest level. However I think Hawley is as good as we're going to get currently in this role.

Re: Downes injured

by ferrarilover » 29 Sep 2013, 21:47

Sorry YF, it's not clear, but I was agreeing with you.

Matt.

Re: Downes injured

by AustrianAndyGull » 29 Sep 2013, 21:44

yellowforever wrote:Also congratulations to those that have managed to get through it, I have a lot of respect for those being able to handle my footballing stream of consciousness.
A lot of what you have posted makes perfect sense YF. :-D

I didn't include Azeez because he is only here for a month and I wanted to look more long term and go for a settled side.

RICE OR POKE

TONGE
DOWNES
PEARCE
CRUISE

CHAPPELL
CRAIG
MANSELL
BODIN

BENYON
HAWLEY

I know that by having Craig in there it leaves us slightly exposed in the middle as others have said, he isn't a great tackler but it gives us creativity which we don't get. It's a bit sad as we have Chappell and Bodin and yet we are still crying out for some creativity in midfield. Perhaps those who do agree may be inadvertently agreeing with me about Bodin because Chappell most certainly provides us with a consistent outlet. Harding and Mansell in the middle are just too similar for it to work.

With my preferred 11, Bodin gets the berth as there is nobody else. I would be worried as he can't tackle either and so with him, Craig and Chappell in midfield it does leave Manse with a lot to do. The other option would be to deploy Damon in the hole and then play with one up but then who would that be? Hawley or Benyon?

Re: Downes injured

by yellowforever » 29 Sep 2013, 21:41

ferrarilover wrote:Craig is already as good defensively as Harding. Thing is, Harding won't get better, Craig might well. We lose nothing by swapping the fat, Northants reject out and sticking NC in.

It's not too complicated. If tactics, lineup and other things were not important or worthwhile, we wouldn't have managers, we'd just let the tea lady pick the starting XI out of a hat on Friday afternoon and that'd be it.

I watch the women when I can, and, with the greatest respect to them, if you want to see what happens when a football team plays with almost no shape, come and have a look.

Matt.
What I'm saying is the basic premise behind it all is not complicated. The ability to read the game and know when to tweak things and make changes based on performances is, and you see managers at every level making decisions deemed 'wrong' by the fans. The managers also have to coach and mould their players into what they want, something far out of the skill set of either myself or, for all her merits, the Tea Lady. At no point have I said I can perform the role better than Knill, what I will say though is that sometimes taking a step back from the nitty gritting of seeing the players every day on the training ground can be a useful exercise in perspective.

Re: Downes injured

by TeenageGull » 29 Sep 2013, 21:35

:goodpost:

A good read my friend

Re: Downes injured

by ferrarilover » 29 Sep 2013, 21:33

Craig is already as good defensively as Harding. Thing is, Harding won't get better, Craig might well. We lose nothing by swapping the fat, Northants reject out and sticking NC in.

It's not too complicated. If tactics, lineup and other things were not important or worthwhile, we wouldn't have managers, we'd just let the tea lady pick the starting XI out of a hat on Friday afternoon and that'd be it.

I watch the women when I can, and, with the greatest respect to them, if you want to see what happens when a football team plays with almost no shape, come and have a look.

Matt.

Re: Downes injured

by yellowforever » 29 Sep 2013, 21:25

Also congratulations to those that have managed to get through it, I have a lot of respect for those being able to handle my footballing stream of consciousness.

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