Dipping Into The Loan Market?

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Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by PhilGull » 17 Sep 2013, 08:06

Without wishing to hijack this thread further the striker situation has puzzled and confused me since the summer.
When Benyon signed all the noises were that he was to go straight in to the first eleven with bigger lad (Manset preferred) being brought in to play along side him. When Hawley and Ball turned up it seemed to go against everything that had been said earlier in the summer.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by supergulls » 16 Sep 2013, 22:03

He started in the JPT and played 90 mins but he has no chance of starting in the league in place of the named above he would be so better of here, he would start every match and I agree he is a decent player.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by brucie » 16 Sep 2013, 21:57

Well thats bloody weird then. They surely won't let him stay there if he isn't getting any gametime. Maybe they were looking at him getting League 1 experience rather than League 2.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by brucie » 16 Sep 2013, 21:54

They are top of the league as well - we seemed to have missed out there. I always had the impression that Ball (and Hawley) were not Knills first choice targets.
I actually think that a decent striker alongside a fit and firing Benyon would make us a far better team but nopt sure where Knill is going to find that person.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by ferrarilover » 16 Sep 2013, 21:52

It's an odd one, I'll grant you that. Stockley is no mug, he's highly rated at Ballmouth. Both Howe (who is well in with Knill) and Jesus have recommended him to us. I can't see the merit of sending him out on loan to Orient, unless there was no possibility of him training with the first team at Bournemouth, so they sent him elsewhere for that reason.

Matt.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by supergulls » 16 Sep 2013, 21:48

Leyton Orient which is a strange one when lisbie and mooney are scoring for fun as they sit top of the league. He is on a months loan but also finds himself behind Sean batt who arrived from millwall and scores a hat trick in his last outing against gillingham. So he's 4th choice at the moment but his loan spell runs out at the same time as balls so fingers crossed.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by ferrarilover » 16 Sep 2013, 21:44

Blimey Tezza, it's rare for you to be the more optimistic of the two of us about [anything] a player.

Stockley went to Orient on loan for a month.

Matt.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by brucie » 16 Sep 2013, 21:34

I hope Yeoman goes somewhere and starts banging in the goals. I guess it will be Conference or lower for Craig and Yeoman. I can't for the life of me understand what Knill is trying to do though. Is he going to persist with the same eleven that are crap every week?
I guess Ball has to go - he has a bit of potential maybe, but is another player who needs a run at a conference team really.
Where did Stockley go incidentally?

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by supergulls » 16 Sep 2013, 21:06

PlainmoorRoar wrote:Creative, maybe people out before people in

It seems Sullivan is above yeoman so why oh why is he not loaned out!!

Something like till the new year at Sailsbury?

Yeoman has been told he can go out on loan, some of the players that will be going out on loan in the next couple of weeks are for varying reasons, some because knill doesn't fancy them, some to aid their devolpment.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by ferrarilover » 16 Sep 2013, 20:59

It's completely the wrong thing to do, and I'm hearing massively conflicting things from all sorts of different people (including the man himself). Sadly, Craig is prime to go out on loan and he would be happy to do that, but if we continue to plough on with Harding and Manse in the middle, then we might as well resign our Football League membership now.

I think this probably signals the end of Ball, both from our point of view and his. We will send him back when his youth loan runs out and he will be stacking shelves by Christmas. I'm still pissed off with Ballmouth, they spent all summer promising us Stockley, then gave him to someone else VERY late on.

Matt.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by PlainmoorRoar » 16 Sep 2013, 20:49

if that is true ^ its the wrong choice

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by Southampton Gull » 16 Sep 2013, 20:46

He will definitely be shipping a couple out at least. One of those to depart will scupper Matt's idea of replacing Harding :)

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by AustrianAndyGull » 16 Sep 2013, 20:43

Nick wrote: ...but not surprising, in my opinion.

I would say that the likes of Harding, Hawley, Pearce and even the likes of Chapell, Benyon and Cameron won't have come cheap. I have voiced my concerns before, and with Scunny and Bury fans claiming that Knill overspending was some of the cause of their financial woes, I am a tad wary of him doing the same here. While we all want success on the pitch, running the club into debt and financial insecurity isn't the way to do it. If Mozika is coming then I highly doubt he is cheap either, with the term "mercenary" thrown around by Bury fans when he left.

The downside of all this is that because we are a footballing outpost and Knill has persuaded all of his signings to move to the area, I'd say it is highly likely that he has promised them all first team football, which has allowed for some complacent performances. I just hope that Knill has the balls to mix it up because at the moment we are no better than last season, which is alarming. I also understand that this point isn't really relevant to the topic, but oh well.
Bloody hell Nick! This never even crossed my mind but now you mention it I can see it makes sense and is a bit worrying to be honest. I hope this is not the case but you may have a point there.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by Plymouth Gull » 16 Sep 2013, 20:37

hector wrote:He said this in the Janner Indy as well.

The fact this the current squad is 'top of budget' is a little worrying as well.
...but not surprising, in my opinion.

I would say that the likes of Harding, Hawley, Pearce and even the likes of Chapell, Benyon and Cameron won't have come cheap. I have voiced my concerns before, and with Scunny and Bury fans claiming that Knill overspending was some of the cause of their financial woes, I am a tad wary of him doing the same here. While we all want success on the pitch, running the club into debt and financial insecurity isn't the way to do it. If Mozika is coming then I highly doubt he is cheap either, with the term "mercenary" thrown around by Bury fans when he left.

The downside of all this is that because we are a footballing outpost and Knill has persuaded all of his signings to move to the area, I'd say it is highly likely that he has promised them all first team football, which has allowed for some complacent performances. I just hope that Knill has the balls to mix it up because at the moment we are no better than last season, which is alarming. I also understand that this point isn't really relevant to the topic, but oh well.

Re: Dipping Into The Loan Market?

by PlainmoorRoar » 16 Sep 2013, 20:25

Creative, maybe people out before people in

It seems Sullivan is above yeoman so why oh why is he not loaned out!!

Something like till the new year at Sailsbury?

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