Torquay United Fans Forum

thing is stan from pafc as my mate danny says , this thing about you and city hating each other and us just being the little boys up the road is fairly recent by which i mean mid eighties onwards, when i started watching the gulls it was us and the greens who were top dogs, city were just an interferance then, but as time has gone on things have changed, in the 60s we played you in front of 20,000 at home park and then at plainmoor in front of 15,000, city were lucky to break 4,000 gates in the days we were getting 7 or 8,000, yourselves well into double figures, i know that you and city like to think yourselves now as the big boys with us as an interferance but that aside we welcome your input on here and you are always welcome and you will always be the biggest club , NOT ALWAYS THE BEST, not sure if you were watching in the 60s and 70s but thing were different then, and it does get a bit boring after a while hearing about the big club attitude and the little club in torbay. anyway we dont see you as our rivals, i always thought as us getting on well and city being the rivals. but hey do we really care, all we want is our teams to do well, and i look forward to a couple big games against you this season, really looking forward to new years day when we will again make a noise at home park. all the best stan!
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Thanks for that Stan, a good view from a 'neutral' supporter and I do agree with your post overall. On the rivalry part, it's the same old boring story. We know Argyle v City is the big rival, but hasn't been for years and years and I think my mate RoadRunner can help me with this with information of the 70's. Yourself and City both don't look at us as rivals, but I couldn't care less, we've won plenty enough times to class ourselves as a competitive rival if anything. I hate Exeter and class them as the closet rival we have, I don't really have hatred for Argyle, just the arrogance annoys me from the greens.

I love beating both of them. I don't mind the "big club" attitude so much, as it is funny really because it is all fur coat and no knickers. I can't abide Gordon Sparks though, I cringe when he speaks on the radio. He reminds me of Don Arnold (Don Argyle) from the local TV in years gone by. I actually find Exeter fans more annoying, they got right up their own backsides after their brief elevation to League 2. Good manager though in Tisdale.

Nothing personal but I would much rather beat Plymouth than shitty City. It's the over the top media coverage that winds me up !
As for Gordon Sparkes well......urgh the most unprofessional "broadcaster" ever let loose with a microphone ! It was so enjoyable coming back from Gnome Park after winning the season before last and hearing him virtually crying on air !!

I know we are a small club and mostly friendly and harmless but it annoys me that we are not even seen as any ones rivals !!

Its the arrogance that gets me. World cup games at Gnome park yeah right. So delusional. Millions in debt about 17 wasn't it but who cares lets carry on as if it doesn't matter. City have done the same on a smaller scale but thankfully that situation hasn't happened at Plainmoor. A close call with Chris Roberts but we don't get the recognition we deserve for trying to run a club in the right way.

So for me beating the mighty green army (platoon) is always my seasons aim !

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[quote="lucy6lucy"]Very good analysis, however why would he bother going unless he is a scout. How many of you torquay based fans who cant afford fleetwood travel next week will wake up next sat and go and watch plymouth or exeter and give your rivals money. Strange person.[/quote]
Guess we (Argyle fans) don't really see Torquay as a true, major rival. Not to sound cocky, but it's fairly obvious that our rivalry with Exeter is more heated, Torquay are definitely seen as secondary or tertiary rivals. Almost all Torquay fans would say that their rivalry with Exeter is of greater importance than that with Plymouth, too.

[quote="ferrarilover"]I'm not convinced he had unveiled anything new. Bodin hopeless, Nico a liability, everyone else pretty good, with the exception of Harding and Manse. It's like reading a combination of my match report and the rest of this board for the last 6 months. What it has done is confirm that it's not just a select few of us who can see that Bodin isn't worth 70p, let alone 70 grand, nor that Nico is miles past his sell by date and that NTFC have stitched us right up with Harding.

A delightful summary of a very strange match, for which we are thankful.

Matt.[/quote]
Wouldn't have said Bodin's useless - merely lacking in end product. Our team at the moment is desperately lacking in true wingers - we mostly play with a striker on the right wing and an attacking midfielder on the left. In fact, youth players aside, we don't have any out-and-out wingers. Would I take Bodin at Argyle? I probably would - I see a lot of potential in him. That said, your right side of Tonge and Chapell is considerably stronger than the left side of Nicholson and Bodin. Ball actually provided the best stuff down that flank with his drifting, your best chance came when Ball crossed it in for Bodin from the left.

Mansell's dead-ball delivery is good, but that's not really enough to cement a place in any side these days. He just looks cumbersome and old, and Harding looks crap. They struggled to boss the middle of the park against a very poor Hartlepool central midfield - most teams in this division (including ourselves in all honesty) would give Mansell and Harding a very hard time. I know very little about one of Hartlepool's centre midfielders on Saturday (Dolan) but his partner Simon Walton is god-awful. Slow, clumsy, unfit, can neither attack nor defend, almost universally considered one of the worst captains in our history. It was a miracle how he managed to blag his way to a higher division when he left us.

was at the Bristol Rovers v York City last saturday when the gulls were at Northampton,plus last season was at Home Park for 4 matches :O ,got no problem with watching other local rivals...

occasionally go to St James Park...it's my nearest ground.

Nope, been to Argyle a few times when I haven't been able to make away games. Will likely go next week for that exact reason.

Matt.

Very good analysis, however why would he bother going unless he is a scout. How many of you torquay based fans who cant afford fleetwood travel next week will wake up next sat and go and watch plymouth or exeter and give your rivals money. Strange person.

Thanks for the input stan, always good to get a neutrals perspective and it also helps us who weren't able to get to the game. I'd like to say good luck to Argyle this season but you know I can't. ;-) :lol:

Very good summary from a neutral, a far better summary than the nonsense posted by a couple of alleged Torquay fans (you know who) on the match thread.

I'm not convinced he had unveiled anything new. Bodin hopeless, Nico a liability, everyone else pretty good, with the exception of Harding and Manse. It's like reading a combination of my match report and the rest of this board for the last 6 months. What it has done is confirm that it's not just a select few of us who can see that Bodin isn't worth 70p, let alone 70 grand, nor that Nico is miles past his sell by date and that NTFC have stitched us right up with Harding.

A delightful summary of a very strange match, for which we are thankful.

Matt.

Thanks for your views. Its very interesting to see a neutral view of things as its so easy for "Gulls supporters" to pick on the usual targets but an objective opinion can reveal so much more..

Great summary, will settle for your predictions