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Re: The last time

by chunkygull » 07 Apr 2013, 10:46

hector wrote: Without wishing to be pedantic, Garry Nelson wasn't part of that squad. Bateson's arrogance is quite breathtaking in that clip.
absolutely right. he wasnt. i shall re-edit.i remember him in that kit but it must have been the following season. he wrote a book about that season with torquay called left foot in the grave. that season 96-97 was bad enough, 4th from bottom.kevin hodges' first in charge. hard to believe it was the next one 97-98 that produced such a good near promotion team using quite a few players left over from 95-96.

there are quite a few players from the 95-96 season who came and went, i cant remember all but i think 1 short termer was a well past it simon garner who had been quite decent at blackburn

i said bateson was funny in the clip.... what a deluded arrogant pr!ck. :lol:

Re: The last time

by hector » 07 Apr 2013, 07:36

Modgull wrote:Forget about the relative merits of the two squads. There is a common denominator which accounts for the two dreadful seasons - off-pitch disasters with management.

Last time we had a combination of ownership problems and a manager who had never managed in this country before.

This time we had a manager who blew up under the pressure of the job and a Board who couldn't make up their mind how to deal with it until too late.

In most seasons it is Clubs with behind-the-scene problems who go down. Often they are financial in nature. But rarely is it just because their squads are inadequate.
Very good points. It puzzles me that what seemed like a progressive board of directors, appear to have just stood by and watched this disaster develop, knowing surely, as we all do, that a return to the Conference is likely to be a permanent one.

Re: The last time

by hector » 07 Apr 2013, 07:33

chunkygull wrote:

they were awful. the worst ever. no comparison. there were a few players that had been ok but were past it, also some went on to have a couple of good seasons.

most of the seriously bad ones i cant remember, there were many players who came and went via loans, trials and short contracts.there were quite a few inexperienced young lads mixed with a few has beens, if i am remembering rightly.
i shall have to dig out a few old programmes and get the full list.

here is a list of some of the more memorable players, not necessarily the worst-

ashley bayes, tom kelly, chris curran, lee barrow, ian hathaway, richard hancox, tony bedeau, wayne thomas, alex watson, jamie ndah, scott partridge, ellis laight, gary nelson, simon travis, paul baker, paul buckle, russell coughlin,

we had a few managers as well - don o'riordon, paul compton + kevin hodges (caretakers), mick buxton (caretaker), eddie may.

guess how many league games we won that season - out of 46 games - go on guess - drum roll please - wait for it - brace yourselves -

5..... yes thats right 5.

if you want to see how bad we were check this out, mainly from about 2 minutes in. bateson is quite funny in this near the end.



are we really that bad now?
Without wishing to be pedantic, Garry Nelson wasn't part of that squad. Bateson's arrogance is quite breathtaking in that clip.

Re: The last time

by Modgull » 07 Apr 2013, 07:11

Forget about the relative merits of the two squads. There is a common denominator which accounts for the two dreadful seasons - off-pitch disasters with management.

Last time we had a combination of ownership problems and a manager who had never managed in this country before.

This time we had a manager who blew up under the pressure of the job and a Board who couldn't make up their mind how to deal with it until too late.

In most seasons it is Clubs with behind-the-scene problems who go down. Often they are financial in nature. But rarely is it just because their squads are inadequate.

Re: The last time

by wivelgull » 05 Apr 2013, 11:28

Mark Robinson now plays for Whitby Town.

Re: The last time

by oxgull » 05 Apr 2013, 07:04

OMG! that was possibley the worst squad ever. Yes, notable exceptions but just how depressing were we to watch??? That's the galling point about this season. On the whole we are better all round but it's just gone soooo wrong. :-/

Re: The last time

by lexusguy » 04 Apr 2013, 23:06

If you want to look for other crap torquay players I found the relegation squad on
http://www.worldfootball.net/teams/torquay-united/20/

Re: The last time

by SuperNickyWroe » 04 Apr 2013, 22:58

Scott Brehaut wrote:Oi, I don't mind being called fat, or froggy, but friend?! With a northerner?!

What a f*****g liberty
yeah you are right.

what was I thinking?

calling a frog a friend..... :rofl:

Re: The last time

by chunkygull » 04 Apr 2013, 22:49

Jerry wrote:If you think we were bad then you should have seen us in 95-96!

they were awful. the worst ever. no comparison. there were a few players that had been ok but were past it, also some went on to have a couple of good seasons.

most of the seriously bad ones i cant remember, there were many players who came and went via loans, trials and short contracts.there were quite a few inexperienced young lads mixed with a few has beens, if i am remembering rightly.
i shall have to dig out a few old programmes and get the full list.

here is a list of some of the more memorable players, not necessarily the worst-

ashley bayes, tom kelly, chris curran, lee barrow, ian hathaway, richard hancox, tony bedeau, wayne thomas, alex watson, jamie ndah, scott partridge, ellis laight, simon garner, simon travis, paul baker, paul buckle, russell coughlin,

we had a few managers as well - don o'riordon, paul compton + kevin hodges (caretakers), mick buxton (caretaker), eddie may.

guess how many league games we won that season - out of 46 games - go on guess - drum roll please - wait for it - brace yourselves -

5..... yes thats right 5.

if you want to see how bad we were check this out, mainly from about 2 minutes in. bateson is quite funny in this near the end.



are we really that bad now?

Re: The last time

by Scott Brehaut » 04 Apr 2013, 22:38

Oi, I don't mind being called fat, or froggy, but friend?! With a northerner?!

What a f*****g liberty

Re: The last time

by SuperNickyWroe » 04 Apr 2013, 22:30

Scott Brehaut wrote:Yes, looks very tight on you if I recall....
not anymore my fat froggy friend.

Re: The last time

by Scott Brehaut » 04 Apr 2013, 22:22

Yes, looks very tight on you if I recall....

Re: The last time

by SuperNickyWroe » 04 Apr 2013, 22:16

Jeff wrote:The best story for me from that season has to be surrounding our own Ryan Jarvis.

Jarvo was quite the hot property back then, and we enquired about loaning him from Norwich. The reply was something along the lines of "erm, no........ We won't loan him to you. How about his sh*tter younger brother Rossi who you've not seen play?". "Oh yeah, we'll take him" was the TUFC response.

Sensing they were onto a winner, Norwich chanced their arm further. "How about a centre back - Matt Halliday - as well, who's never played a senior game?" "Send them all" came the reply.

So we ended up with two players we'd neither scouted, considered, or even really needed. Rossi Jarvis was pretty abysmal, yet has somehow forged a half decent BSP career with Luton and then Cambridge. Halliday I actually thought looked like he might have had something going for him, yet sunk without trace.

A similar scenario occurred when we got Jamal Easter in - Nick McCoy was a "buy one, get one free" addition. We must have spunked a fortune on players we didn't need that season!
how embarrasing....... :Oops:
ive still got his shirt from the end of season auction...... :Oops:

Re: The last time

by Jeff » 04 Apr 2013, 22:14

The best story for me from that season has to be surrounding our own Ryan Jarvis.

Jarvo was quite the hot property back then, and we enquired about loaning him from Norwich. The reply was something along the lines of "erm, no........ We won't loan him to you. How about his sh*tter younger brother Rossi who you've not seen play?". "Oh yeah, we'll take him" was the TUFC response.

Sensing they were onto a winner, Norwich chanced their arm further. "How about a centre back - Matt Halliday - as well, who's never played a senior game?" "Send them all" came the reply.

So we ended up with two players we'd neither scouted, considered, or even really needed. Rossi Jarvis was pretty abysmal, yet has somehow forged a half decent BSP career with Luton and then Cambridge. Halliday I actually thought looked like he might have had something going for him, yet sunk without trace.

A similar scenario occurred when we got Jamal Easter in - Nick McCoy was a "buy one, get one free" addition. We must have spunked a fortune on players we didn't need that season!

Re: The last time

by Dutchgull » 04 Apr 2013, 22:00

Webb years ..Dean Mooney anyone !!!!

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